gwnn Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 xxxJTxxxKQ9xxvoid Your lead against 1N-3N (matchpoints) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 4 leads are possible all involving red cards. I'd go with low heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 ♦K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 ♦K and a ♠ are genius leads, I'd probably start with a small ♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 small ♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 I like the ♦K lead, not sure why it's supposed to be a genius lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Low diamond for me. KQ9xx I never know whether to lead high or low. This time I will try low, with no entries at least we can run the diamonds when partner has Ax and opps have 3 each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Generally speaking it seems like it's a very close decision between leading low and high from KQ9xx (in fact the 4th highest spot might well make a difference in the decision), but I guess all books teach to lead low.Here, leading high would be embarrassing when partner has Ax and the suit splits 3-3, but it would work well when partner has Txx and one opponent Jx, or LHO Ax and RHO Jxx, and it would also work well when we can beat it by shifting to a major after setting up our diamond trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 King of diamonds. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 High diamond at matchpoints, low diamond at IMPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Always a heart, I think any diamond deserves an lol tbh, It really matters a lot that LHO typically has no 4+ card major. They have way too many diamonds on average and we just blow a trick a ton. If patner happens to have the diamond ace, all hope is not lost since he probably has an entry and can shift. It's not like we're ever setting up our long one and then getting in. Yes it's possible we lose a tempo by not leading a diamond, eg Jxx with partner and Ax on our right, but that risk is much better than the insanely high risk we have of just blowing a trick with a diamond lead. I would feel really confident that a double dummy simulation would find a diamond the worst suit to lead by a ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 As far as the 2 choices, spades vs hearts, I prefer hearts because that might be the suit we need to set up, and a spade will often give away the suit. I would predict a spade being better than a heart in a double dummy simulation because giving away the suit is not a factor then. JTxxx is not as dangerous when dummy is not long in the suit, but obv we can still hit HH9x on right and Hx in dummy type situations. But I think a spade is way better than a diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pict Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 K♦ The diamond nine looks a card not to be ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Always a heart, I think any diamond deserves an lol tbh, It really matters a lot that LHO typically has no 4+ card major. They have way too many diamonds on average and we just blow a trick a ton. If patner happens to have the diamond ace, all hope is not lost since he probably has an entry and can shift. It's not like we're ever setting up our long one and then getting in. Yes it's possible we lose a tempo by not leading a diamond, eg Jxx with partner and Ax on our right, but that risk is much better than the insanely high risk we have of just blowing a trick with a diamond lead. I would feel really confident that a double dummy simulation would find a diamond the worst suit to lead by a ton. generally this auction is an auto "find the best" major lead but the combination of my ♣ void and ♦ length make me wonder if this is an exception Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 I know I would lead a diamond, probably low. But jlall is certainly to be trusted on these matters more than I am so take it for what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dodgy Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 H4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 I performed three simple 1,000 hand double dummy simulations. The first included those hands where 3NT would be bid with any 4333 hand (so may have a 4-card major). The contract failed on 252 deals and the killing leads were: ♦K - 147 hands♠x - 140 ♥J - 129♦x - 129♥x - 123 On the second, the 3NT bidder did not have a 4-card major. The contract failed on 249 deals and the killing leads were: ♦K - 137 hands♥x - 136♥J - 134♠x - 132♦x - 129 On the third, North did not have a 4-card major nor precisely 3-1 in the majors (as many have a system bid for this). The contract failed on 250 deals and the killing leads were: ♦K - 162 hands♦x - 140♠x - 115♥J - 103♥x - 96 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 The first two are pretty close to call, especially the second one. But the 3rd is interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 I performed three simple 1,000 hand double dummy simulations. The first included those hands where 3NT would be bid with any 4333 hand (so may have a 4-card major). The contract failed on 252 deals and the killing leads were: ♦K - 147 hands♠x - 140 ♥J - 129♦x - 129♥x - 123 On the second, the 3NT bidder did not have a 4-card major. The contract failed on 249 deals and the killing leads were: ♦K - 137 hands♥x - 136♥J - 134♠x - 132♦x - 129 On the third, North did not have a 4-card major nor precisely 3-1 in the majors (as many have a system bid for this). The contract failed on 250 deals and the killing leads were: ♦K - 162 hands♦x - 140♠x - 115♥J - 103♥x - 96 That's all very nice (and interesting) for imps. However, this is matchpoints, so beating the contract is not our sole purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Obv a diamond is the best lead to beat it/at imps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 I reran the simulations to include the best opening lead when the contract makes, which gives a matchpoint flavour to the results. The first included those hands where 3NT would be bid with any 4333 hand (so may have a 4-card major). The contract failed on 237 deals and the best leads were: ♦K - 673♠x - 640♥J - 633♥x - 610♦x - 424 On the second, the 3NT bidder did not have a 4-card major. The contract failed on 271 deals and the best leads were: ♦K - 634 ♥J - 623♠x - 628♥x - 613♦x - 374 On the third, North did not have a 4-card major nor precisely 3-1 in the majors (as many have a system bid for this). The contract failed on 255 deals and the best leads were: ♦K - 657 hands♠x - 645♥J - 631♥x - 615♦x - 401 Of course there are many variables in play for such simulations (as you see the number of failing contracts vary), but the 'performance' of the low diamond lead compared to a high diamond looks significant for matchpoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Just wondering here: isn't it better to calculate the total number of tricks taken by opponents, and then see which lead gives opps the lowest number? Or will we get more AVE+/AVE- instead of top/bottoms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Wow, I'm certainly sold on the high diamond over the low diamond anyway. Maybe low is better without the 9 since we often give declarer a guess with the J and 9 in the two hands, and lose the opportunity to smother JT doubleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Wow, I'm certainly sold on the high diamond over the low diamond anyway. Maybe low is better without the 9 since we often give declarer a guess with the J and 9 in the two hands, and lose the opportunity to smother JT doubleton. I think the big problem with low one is that we make no trick in the suit when partner has doubleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Obv a diamond is the best lead to beat it/at imps. Oh wait this is matchpoints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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