inquiry Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 [hv=d=e&v=n&w=sk63hk8654d763cat&e=s72haq72dq84ck732]266|100|Scoring: MPBoard 14. If east passes, south will open 1♣. If west then passes, north bids 1♠. If west overcalls 1♥, north will make a negative double. Either way, NS will compete to 2♠ or bid to 2♠ on their own. However, If East opens 1♦, south will overcall 1♠ and north will compete to 2♠. Scores: 2He.w=10, 3Hew=8, 1Ne=7, 2Ne=5, 2Sx=4, 4Hew=1, 2Sn=0 [/hv] 3H W 214H E 12H E 12H W 14H W 12S N 13H E 1 The two pairs playing weak 1NT got to play in the top spot of 2♥ after opening EAST 1NT. 4H W ant590 - crayzeejim4H E jdonn/gib3H W Flycycle/Wackojack3H W Codo-Fluffy3H W tylere / bid_em_up3H W Siegmund/MSchmahl3H W jlall/hanp3H W CanadaGrl/Gerardo3H W zasanya/ravia63H W rogerClee/cherdano3H W mohitz/akjq3H W karlson/threenobob3H W peachy/lg623H W elianna/awm3H W mbodell - javabean3H W gnasher/catch223H W East4Evil/sohcahtoa3H W bluecalm/redds3H W helene_t-agusaris3H W kfay/jchiu3H W tlgoodwin/timg3H W sallyally/joylson3H W olegru - driver7333H E cascade kermit2S N kristen33/jillybean2H W lobowolf/bkjswan2H E Hrothgar/FreeNA 0 j0i/gwnnNA 0 Tomi2-JHDWNA 0 Vampyr/Lamford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 If east passes, south will open 1♣. If west then passes, north bids 1♠. If west overcalls 1♥, north will make a negative double. Either way, NS will compete to 2♠ or bid to 2♠ on their own. However, If East opens 1♦, south will overcall 1♠ and north will compete to 2♠. I don't understand how you're supposed to play in 2♥. In every auction NS will compete to 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 The trick is that N/S do not have a good defense to weak notrump, and just pass the whole time while their opponents play in a nine-card heart fit. So you have to open the convention that N/S do not know how to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 The trick is that N/S do not have a good defense to weak notrump, and just pass the whole time while their opponents play in a nine-card heart fit. So you have to open the convention that N/S do not know how to defend. Not true. I opened a 10-12 NT in first seat, my partner tried to sign off in 2♥, and south still balanced with 2♠. Unless that was an operator error? No blame obviously cause it's still a reasonable action, but you can't assign 2♥ a score then ;P EDIT: maybe a 1♣ opening would keep them out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Yea, agreed with the others. If you say a 10 should be attainable on every board, them imo 3♥ must be scored as 10 since 2♥ is unplayable. As for the painrs in 2♥, surely that must be operator error? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 There might have been operator's errors in this one, but they can be checked. So if you opened 1NT make sure you complainand your auction should be checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 How is it possible (without operator error of forgetting to bid 2S) to stop at 2H? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 How is it possible (without operator error of forgetting to bid 2S) to stop at 2H? A 1NT opening by east will not be overcalled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 There might have been operator's errors in this one, but they can be checked. So if you opened 1NT make sure you complainand your auction should be checked. Ya okay, the auction at our table went: 1NT-P-2H-PP-2S-X-P3H-AP but it should have instead gone 1NT-P-2H-AP if they never bid after a NT opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Our auction: 1♦* - 1♠ - dbl** - 2♠3♥ - pass - pass !? 1♦ = precdbl = 4hearts or exactly 5 hearts but then 7-10 (with 11+ or 6hearts we bid 2♦ which is transfer to hearts) 3♥ = to simplify the system we don't play any kind of good/bad 2NT here (and even if we were I think it should just show both minors). I think my partner made quite a hero pass here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 So to reach the perfect score we need to know that they are not able to compete/balance over 1 NT but they are able to do so over any other opening bid? Come on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 There might have been operator's errors in this one, but they can be checked. So if you opened 1NT make sure you complainand your auction should be checked. We opened 1NT and would have rested in 2♥ but were pushed to the three-level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 If opening 1NT meant no competition from N/S after 2♥, then Cascade/kermit and East4Evil/sohcahtoa deserve a 2♥ note, as I bid 2♠ over their sign-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 So to reach the perfect score we need to know that they are not able to compete/balance over 1 NT but they are able to do so over any other opening bid? Come on.... And that is exactly why a goodly bit of the world outside the US plays a weak no trump. Lowest preempt in the book. It can dial a 4 figure number where a 1m opener doesn't get punished, but it steals back on these deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 What sort of hand would- open 1♣ in second- overcall 1♠ over 1♣ or 1♦- not bid after (1NT) pass (2♦) pass (2♥)or (1NT) pass (2♥) pass (pass)at matchpoints with nobody vulnerable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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