jillybean Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sj853hak85dak75ca]133|100|Scoring: MP1♦ (P) 1♥ (P)?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 Looks like a balanced hand to me. 4♥ ; but I can't bid 4♣ anyway, because it means something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 I can and bid 4♣. Edit: No, I don't. 4♣ should be a small card, maybe 4♦ is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 4♥ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 4♥ for me says that I have 4 card support and that I expect game to probably make if PD has a min 1♥ bid. I don't hate splintering but splintering with a stiff ace can cause PD to missevaluate the combined hands, expecting a stiff spot instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 4♣ The singlton A is not a problem here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 We definitely need partner's values outside clubs (in spades in particular). That's what 4♣ tells him. I just don't get why some people have an automatic aversion to stiff ace. If partner has KQx QJxxx Qx xxx we want to be in slam, but if he has xxx QJxxx Qx KQx we want to stop in game. This is why we play splinters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 7♦ looks like the value bid :unsure: I'd bid 4♣ also jilly, my next bid is 5♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 I can bid 2NT showing a GF raise :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSummit Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 totally agree with jdonn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 Looks like a balanced hand to me. Except for the obvious singleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 Yes, Wayne. I noticed the singleton and as stated would bid 4C if it meant that in our style. No I am not worried that the stiff is a bullet. No I woudn't splinter and then bid again over 4H (people love to do that, and I love it when they are someone else's partner.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 The choice is between 4C splinter and 4H balanced powerhouse. If your agreement is you cannot splinter with a singleton ace, then no matter what you bid, it will be a lie. Pick the lie you like better, for me, 4C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 I bid 4♣, lho came in with 5♣ and partner bid 5♥, do you go on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 I bid 4H as I don't think splintering with a stiff bullet is a good idea.I pass 5H; partner could have made a forcing pass with a slam going hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 I bid 4♣, lho came in with 5♣ and partner bid 5♥, do you go on? No, I pass 5H. Pass by partner would be forcing, because we were constructively bidding game.Dbl would have suggested defending, so he does not have a good hand to defend or to suggest slam. He took charge by bidding 5H and I need to respect that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 I bid 4♣, lho came in with 5♣ and partner bid 5♥, do you go on? Agree with 4♣. A splinter with stiff ace is not ideal but is better than treating the hand as balanced. This is pretty much at the lower end in terms of strength. If partner made a forcing pass of their 5♣ I would cue bid 5♦, but still pass if he bids 5♥ next. Over a direct 5♥ it is a definite pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 what is this nonsense that 4♥ shows a balanced hand? what system is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 what is this nonsense that 4♥ shows a balanced hand? what system is this? Completely normal bridge, not nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 what is this nonsense that 4♥ shows a balanced hand? what system is this? A system where a 2NT rebid is non-forcing :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Hi, you have 3 options#1 4H - right on values, usually showes a semibal. hand#2 4C - a splinter, the ace is ugly, but than the other options also have their flaws#3 1S - as long as it is forcing, keeps the bidding low, may give you the best chance to get information from p, the suit is ugly I would go with 1S. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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