Little Kid Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=sakt64h6dq84ckt76&s=sj982ha8dt76caq42]133|200|Scoring: MPPass-(3♦)-All Pass[/hv]Anyone to blame for NS getting a bottom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 If south doesn't open, his subsequent pass can hardly be faulted, and I think bidding 3S with the north hand is ridiculous. A good hand to be opening light. I'll note 4S isn't amazing, if clubs are 4-1 a very likely result is 3D down with 4S also down, despite north catching south with a nearly 100% working 11 count with 4 trumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Kid Posted July 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Matchpoints are lame :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Matchpoints are lame :)Is this a common view among yor age group? If so, it's nice to know I was ahead of my time in something :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Matchpoints are lame :)Is this a common view among yor age group? If so, it's nice to know I was ahead of my time in something :D Actually, more to the point, roughly what percentage of pairs games are MP vs XIMPs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I would open the south hand, but it's far from the worst pass I've ever seen. After he passes N/S are screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 They really have ten hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Kid Posted July 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=sakt64h6dq84ckt76&w=s53ht95dakj532c85&e=sq7hkqj7432d9cj93&s=sj982ha8dt76caq42]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyams Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 1. I suspect your side got a bottom not due to either North or South's inaction but due to East's pass. Did many E/Ws play in 4♥ -1?2. Switch the ♠3 and ♣3 between the East and West hands and now 4♥ is cold but 4♠ is down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplicity Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 2. Switch the ♠3 and ♣3 between the East and West hands and now 4♥ is cold but 4♠ is down.Um 4♠ is still cold and 4♥ is just the 1 off instead of 2. Perhaps you meant the ♣5 and ♠7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 In my book South could double, and convert hearts to spades. Shouldn't show anything but 4-4 in black. (Considering South is a passed hand, and it is MP's.) And North should have no reason whatsoever, to go to 4♠. The texture of the hand and the vulnerabilety doesn't invite adventure though, so I am not sure I would have the balls for it, at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Matchpoints are lame :rolleyes: No. Just another game than IMP's. And with higher variance. And in my opinion a much more difficult game. Or at least a game less mastered by the experts. Don't ask me which. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 OleBerg?I can understand making a passed-hand takeout double with a doubleton major, but not with a doubleton major AND three cards in their suit. And would you also suggest that North should pass if you had seen that the South hand has 4225 shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 OleBerg?I can understand making a passed-hand takeout double with a doubleton major, but not with a doubleton major AND three cards in their suit. And would you also suggest that North should pass if you had seen that the South hand has 4225 shape?First off, I didn't make it clear enough, that i wanted North to show restraint (3♠), not to gamble a pass. (Even though it isn't that unreasonable). Three cards in their suit is bad too, which is one major reason, that I might not double at the table. The other is, of course, the vulnerabilety. To be honest, I think I would only double at all white. If opponents were red, I'd simply hope to collect enough 200+'s in the long run. At all white, I would double with 4-1-3-5, if the hand had the right texture. If I should try and construct a 4-2-3-4 hand I would double with at this vulnerabilety, it would be something like: ♠ QJ109♥ 32♦ A109♣ QJ109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I believe south doubling as a ph then pulling 3♥ to 3♠ shows 5-4 in the black suits. No blame here from me, this kind of thing happens on occasion when opponents bid a lot in a bad fit with a good fit on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Interesting to think what would happen if 2♦ was opened, do you fancy 2♠ at this vul opposite a passed partner with an unpassed LHO.. No real blame to assign, and 4S is an excellent contract, as it's laydown any time the second seat preemptor has 7 of them even with 4-1 clubs or 3-1 spades most of the time. I think I like the south hand enough to open it a 12-14 1N, but can't criticise a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junyi_zhu Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=sakt64h6dq84ckt76&s=sj982ha8dt76caq42]133|200|Scoring: MPPass-(3♦)-All Pass[/hv]Anyone to blame for NS getting a bottom? gotta open the bidding with 11 HCP two aces and 4-4 in black suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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