kfay Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 1♦-2♣-Dbl-Rdbl2♥-P-P-2♠ Was pass of 2♥ forcing? Following from that then... is 2♠ forcing? Rdbl is just HCPs, basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Pass not forcing, you just overcalled. 2♠ I'm not sure on. If a direct 2♠ call isn't forcing then I think this 2♠ call is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Pass forcing, 2S not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I don't think pass is forcing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I don't think pass should be forcing, and I think 2♠ clearly is. If I wanted it to be non-forcing I'd have bid it one round earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I wouldn't take either of them as forcing but 2♠ should perhaps be. Just don't be mad at me if I pass out your 2 level pass or 2M bid in competition where ownership is far from clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I don't think pass should be forcing, and I think 2♠ clearly is. If I wanted it to be non-forcing I'd have bid it one round earlier. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 This hurts but I agree. Redouble can be a strong hand but often is just a decent hand with a doubleton club. That should not create a force. And as gnasher said, with 5+ spades and not enough to force we could have bid 2S on the previous round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Not forcing, unless you know opps are jokers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Not forcing, unless you know opps are jokers. that was my concern, too. Everyone at the table is acting. However, that makes me wonder if 2S is even real length. Conclusion: it is something like 5-(3-3-2) and choice to play 2S or 3C. That hand might not choose to bid 2S or 3C on the previous round, but rather make a snappish redouble then show two places to play. Edit: Maybe responder thought that, after the neg double, a direct 2S should guarantee 6 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Non-forcing does make sense too, double to show values and a doubleton club, then 2S to suggest spades, while a direct 2S would suggest a better suit. Either way I now agree that pass is NF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSummit Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 if the double of opp shows both majors, i would think 2S after redouble is forcing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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