Jump to content

Now or never


Recommended Posts

It occurred to me that gnasher probably already plays, or advocates, transfers....and, on reflection, transfers are clearly better, imo, than the lebensohl-like ideas I suggested. 2N clubs, limit or better....if they bounce, double shows the gf hand, with no clear direction.

What does the auction look like "if they bounce" ?, who/what bounces, I have no idea what this means. :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It occurred to me that gnasher probably already plays, or advocates, transfers....and, on reflection, transfers are clearly better, imo, than the lebensohl-like ideas I suggested. 2N clubs, limit or better....if they bounce, double shows the gf hand, with no clear direction.

What does the auction look like "if they bounce" ?, who/what bounces, I have no idea what this means. :)

bounce=preempt: so, if you were to bid 2N, as either minor, for example, and LHO 'bounced' to 4, partner won't know which minor you hold...after all rho has one, and you have one...you may have a misfit or a great fit, and he won't know. If you can show your suit, as by a transfer, then he will know more about what to do if they 'bounce'.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah, many pairs here play either lebensohl or inv+ transfers (then 2NT is clubs, 3 is diamonds, 3 is stopper ask gf and 3 is inv+ in spades).

I think 3 is more useful as another type of spade raise - eg 3-card instead of 4-card. What sort of hand wants to ask for a stopper anyway?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, both Gnash and Josh got what I was saying. It is a choice to be able to get the suit in and the (weaker) strength in with the direct 3m bids. And with the stronger hands to get the strength (if that only) in.

 

Also transfers, give 4th chair more tools (like them bidding your minor, whatever that means).

 

I have just offered a different approach, which we happen to use at this time --- am not declaring whether it is better or not, but think it is worth consideration.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

See the May 1983 Bridgeworld. Some think that it is a Jeff Rubens invention, but that is incorrect. It was originally designed to cope with intervention over NTs and when the opps opened a weak 2 and partner doubled. Since then Bruce has developed it further. This hand is a good example of where it can be used, though I would prefer the Ds to be a little better.

In Australia many big C players use it to cope with intervention.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

See the May 1983 Bridgeworld. Some think that it is a Jeff Rubens invention, but that is incorrect. It was originally designed to cope with intervention over NTs and when the opps opened a weak 2 and partner doubled. Since then Bruce has developed it further. This hand is a good example of where it can be used, though I would prefer the Ds to be a little better.

In Australia many big C players use it to cope with intervention.

So because Bruce Neil thought of using transfers in one situation, when someone else suggests playing them in a completely different auction, you're going to attribute the method to Neil?

 

By the same argument, we could refer to this method as Jacoby or Texas.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Oh dear, oh dear Andy. NEILL originally developed it for use over 1NT and weak 2s and then NEILL developed it further. I should have thought that was obvious from my post. I guess not....

OK, so when did Bruce Neil first suggest playing transfers over an Michaels cue-bid?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Oh dear, oh dear Andy. NEILL originally developed it for use over 1NT and weak 2s and then NEILL developed it further. I should have thought that was obvious from my post. I guess not....

OK, so when did Bruce Neil first suggest playing transfers over an Michaels cue-bid?

Why don't you email him and ask him?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

[hv=d=n&v=n&s=sa7ha76dj85432c64]133|100|Scoring: IMP

1 (2) ?[/hv]

 

I've done it before and I've heard the stories of players waiting to enter the auction only to find themselves still waiting for their bid when the round ends.

Is there ever a good time to wait, is this one of them?

Easy pass. This hand is rather bad and you will often find the split will be bad too.

Facing a minimum opener, the maximum I want to commit with this hand is 2S, which has been bid already. So, it is really an easy pass. The defensive potential is also excellent for this hand.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...