Elianna Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Bottom line, as well intentioned as it is, the Recorder system doesn't work. I was Unit recorder for 3 years and nothing ever happened. I politely submit that if you were recorder, and nothing happened, then either: a) Nothing should have happened (you have honest people in your unit) b) Members of your unit needed to be educated about filling out recorder forms. c) You weren't doing your job. The recorder should not act on a small number of forms, but they do come to play when there is a preponderance of them. I know of two discipline cases where the recorder forms were used in my district in the last few years, and there could have been more, I am not involved in those things (I just hear about them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 You posted that once before right? Last line sounds familiar. I don't mean that in a bad way, just wondering if I'm having a deja vu or if I really read it before. It's a good last line. I remember it too. What's the chance of us having a joint deja vu? Does restricted choice apply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elianna Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 You posted that once before right? Last line sounds familiar. I don't mean that in a bad way, just wondering if I'm having a deja vu or if I really read it before. It's a good last line. I remember it too. What's the chance of us having a joint deja vu? Does restricted choice apply? See my edited post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 As a 20-year-old, playing in my first non-0-100 Sectional event, partnering my father, who hadn't played a tournament since before I was born... Second seat, w/r, I pick up: AKQJxxx, x, Axx, xx. I was paying too much attention to the cute caddy who was picking up previous-round scorecards, and after RHO opened 1♣, I heard my mouth say 4♥. (Yes, people actually spoke their bids in those days.) LHO tanked, then bid 4♠. Dad tanked then passed. RHO tanked then passed. I passed pretty quickly. :) [hv=d=e&v=e&n=sxhjxxxxdqjtxxcxx&w=st9xxhaqxdxxxckjx&e=sxhkxxxdkxcaqxxxx&s=sakqjxxxhxdaxxcxx]399|300|Scoring: MPOpening lead Q♦[/hv] +900 N/S. West called the director. TD asked Dad if we were playing transfers in that sequence. Dad replied that we don't play transfers in ANY sequence. Director confirmed this on our convention card. "Young man, what was 4♥?" "The wrong word came out of my mouth." "Ok, that's a psyche and the result stands. Don't do it again." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 The previous hand reminds me of: [hv=s=s6543hk102dj2cakq7]133|100|[/hv] So you open a blameless weak 1N, and partner bids 2♥ showing spades, at which point you realise you have 4 clubs, 2 diamonds, 3 hearts and 4 more clubs. What now ? I bid 3N which fortunately didn't exist as a system bid, and partner worked out a wheel had come off, but not exactly which one and passed. The look on the defence's face when I showed out on the first spade was a picture, although they should have worked out something like this was going on. It also reminds me of a pair of team mates who contrived to play in 2Cxx with the opening leader holding AKQJxxxx, but the less said about that one the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 "Ok, that's a psyche and the result stands. Don't do it again." Such a ridiculous and incompetent attitude. 1. It is not a psyche it is a mistake 2. There is no way you can regulate for mistakes 3. There is no "one psyche" rule even if it was a psyche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 I took it to mean "behave yourself and pay more attention". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 You posted that once before right? Last line sounds familiar. I don't mean that in a bad way, just wondering if I'm having a deja vu or if I really read it before. It's a good last line. I remember it too. What's the chance of us having a joint deja vu? Does restricted choice apply? Well at the time that Han posted his deja-vu, restricted choice applied because if Elianna had a deja vu also, she might have posted first. But now that you have both posted it and the question is whether you have a joined deja-vu or a joined real memory (or maybe one has a deja-vu and the other has a real memory) I don't think it applies anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 I took it to mean "behave yourself and pay more attention". I still don't understand. 1. A mistake is not misbehaving 2. The director is not your coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 The director was wrong to call it a psych. He may have been wrong to suggest paying more attention to the game - or perhaps not. Maybe he didn't want several more calls resulting from "not paying attention". But it happened a long time ago, it seems, so I don't see much point in making a big deal about it now. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 I want to know if he dated the caddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Weird auction today all white at teams was P - (1♠) - 6♦ all pass. My partner made seven when I had 2 trump and the opponents trump split 3-1 with the K stiff. Her hand was - AKQ4 AQJ8754 A3 and my J-fifth of hearts and 9x of diamonds was all she needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 I had an auction last year: 2NT-6S. 2NT was weak with both minors. Partner's hand was AKQxxxx AQJx void AK. My hand was xx T AKTxx QTxxx. The only useful high card was the stiff ♥T. Before anyone asks, we didn't have a natural forcing 3S available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBruce Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 You may have heard this before...it happened before bid-boxes were in common use. An elderly woman picked up a very good hand during a round at an NABC where her RHO was a Famous Bridge Name. To her surprise, FBN opened 7♦, all vulnerable. She thought for some time and finally decided to bid 7♠ with her 28 count. Partner tabled a Yarborough, but a miraculous one with trump support and just enough ruffing entries to allow her to take several finesses against FBN's high cards. Really good versions of the story have her making the 13th trick on an accidental squeeze that FBN was helpless to prevent. At the end of the hand, she breathed a deep breath and said to FBN "could I have a look, sir, at the hand you held? I really want to see what a vulnerable 7♦ first-chair preempt looks like." The FBN got up from his chair as the round was called. "Lady," he said wearily, "my bid was ONE DIAMOND." :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmilne Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 It also reminds me of a pair of team mates who contrived to play in 2Cxx with the opening leader holding AKQJxxxx, but the less said about that one the better.Last round in a 4-team round robin, in the finals section of a regional teams event, we needed a pretty good score against the team leading to win. Our teammates had a middling set, but thankfully we managed to bring back +1600 from 2Sxx, when partner was sitting with ♠AKQJT on lead... thankfully there were a couple of extra tricks on top of the trumps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 At a recent regional, I was playing in the first round of a compact KO in a three-way match. On the first board, our opponents' auction started out 1♣ - 1♠ - 1NT. The 1NT was alerted as a strong NT type hand, as they were playing weak NT openings. My LHO then bid 2♣ checkback, and it went All Pass. LHO was pretty upset that 2♣ was passed out. But that was just the beginning. It turned out that RHO was 0-3-4-6. By the way, the declarer did not say that he missorted his cards. This was done deliberately. 2♣ turned out to be a fairly normal contract, even though declarer misplayed it and wound up going down 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Let me guess: you didn't file a recorder memo. Players are allowed to psych. I wouldn't expect a score adjustment on this hand, particularly given declarer screwed it up, but a recorder memo is the only way, afaik, to make a record of the psych so that future similar psychs, if any, can be looked at with knowledge of a pattern (if there is one). I suppose someone will tell me that recorder memos are a waste of time. Maybe they are. But as Heinlein said "Certainly the game is rigged. So what? If you don't bet, you can't win". :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 No, I did not file a recorder memo. We all had a good laugh and went on to the next hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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