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Two balancing decisions


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1) KJ873 K852 8 A73, mp, nv/nv.

(1)-1-(3)-P

(P) - ?

 

Does it matters whether 3 is preemptive or mixed or limit?

 

2) 65 T8 T832 A8654, mp nv/nv.

 

1N-(2)-P-(2)

P - (P) - ?

 

1N is 15-17 and 2 shows majors.

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Does it matters whether 3 is preemptive or mixed or limit?

Apparently not to partner, who didn't stretch to support and didn't make a responsive double. chartreus card.

 

2nd one 2Nt is for minors, and it is still ugly. Fortunately partner will choose the lower with equal lengths, so "it's only matchpoints".

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Why is bidding on the first hand madness? We have about half the deck and it's none vul at matchpoints.

Misread auction thought it went 1N p 2D p 2H p p ?

 

I was like WTFFFFFFF PEOPLEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

yeah i balance with 2N obv!

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I'd double on the first hand only if 3 was weak and they play strong notrumps.

 

In this situation, opener will almost always have a weak notrump in which case we tend to have half the deck or more. So we want to balance with our appropriate shape, despite the lack of values.

 

If 3 is a limit raise then opponents often have "almost game values" without a great diamond fit (with a great diamond fit they might've bid game anyway). This is a bad time to balance.

 

If they play weak notrump and 3 is weak, then opener often has a strong notrump and again they frequently have "just short of game values" and a lousy diamond fit.

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