ATB

[kayin801]

[hv=d=w&v=e&n=sxxxxhxxxda10xxcax&w=shkxxdkqj98xxcq10x&e=sk109xhaq10xdxc98xx&s=saqjxxhjxxdxckjxx]399|300|Scoring: IMP

(1♦)-P-(1♥)-1♠

(2♦)-2♠-(P)-P

(3♦)-P-(P)-X

AP, 9 tricks N/S -670[/hv]

 

Part 2: what is X by south here, given north couldn't make a penalty X the first time around?

 

Josh (partner) probably thinks I'm being sneaky asking others when we've already discussed this but I'm curious anyway :(

[JLOGIC]

2S: Very poor bid, easy 2H. 2 aces 4 trumps and a doubleton is an easy cue esp when the cue doesn't force to the 3 level.

 

Passing 3D: Normal, even though you have 4 trumps you have good defense for diamonds obv.

 

Double: Huh? I don't know what south meant this double as even though I see his hand, but whatever it shows it's not a stiff diamond. I think you can play it as either pure penalty (I have diamonds), or some hand with good defense that wants to bid 3S unless partner has reasonable diamonds (typically Hx of diamonds or a few diamonds and some aces and kings).

 

Pass: Hell yeah, 3 tricks and partner cracked them and all I've done is make a simple raise to 2S...must be christmas

[whereagles]

South double is a bit optimistic, North's pass even more.

 

But excellent dog-walking by West aahaahahha.

[gwnn]

North's pass even more.

??

[whereagles]

well, pard has a singleton diamond, so he has to have decent extras to be doubling. I got 4 trumps... 3♠ (or even 4!!) seems normal, no?

[Codo]

I guess that South thought that his double show full values for 1 ♠.

 

North must be on the same wavelength, he sees in his hand that this double is not penalty.

 

Now he sees 2-3 tricks. Partner needs to have 3 more to make 3 ♦ X a great spot. Where do you think will these tricks come from? And if we have them, isn't 4 Spade making in comfort?

 

I had bid 4 ♠ with the north hand. But just because I had underbid so strange at my first opportunity. May two wrongs make a right this time...

[kayin801]

I guess that South thought that his double show full values for 1 ♠.

Yeah, that was my intent, since we overcall w/r on ANYTHING partner couldn't X 3♦ without knowing whether I actually had anything in my hand, so I thought my X was letting partner know I had an actual hand so he could indeed penalize them. In retrospect my hand still isn't that great for defense though so I should pass (had partner bid 2♥, I should have competed to 3♠)

[pooltuna]

mostly bad luck but over 3♦ I would have called 3♠. Unlike others, given the texture of your hand, I don't consider 2♠ to be a particularly bad underbid so much as a reasonable attempt to buy the partscore

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

#1 I would not interpret to much in the fact, that North did not make a pen.

X the round before, he has a fit, and it seldoms pays, to hide the fit and

to make a pen. X instead

#2 The X by South should show a willingness to compete to 3S, but also some

defence against 3D.

Looking at the South hand, I see some defence, but not enough to play 3S.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Cascade]

Agree with Justin this is a cue-raise with the north hand.

 

South's double needs definition.

 

As an alternative we have this agreement for this sort of auction:

 

Double over the bidder is penalties - ♦ KQTx or similar

 

Double under the bidder is a maximum balanced hand with prime cards - aces and side ace kings that are likely to be tricks both offensively and defensively.

[campboy]

I don't agree with North's second or third round actions (though surely the final pass is right at this vulnerability -- I would be expecting 500+). But still 100% South to blame. Partner has shown nothing, you have no defence to speak of, why are you doubling a partscore at IMPs?

[Pict]

Just being a results merchant for a moment, NS make game in spades on a lot of layouts.