quiddity Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=sxhtxxdxxcaqt8xxx]133|100|Scoring: IMPP 1♥ 1♠ 2♣2♠ P P 3♥P P 3♠ ?[/hv] Do you agree with the bidding so far (and if not, how would you bid it)? Do you bid again? Does either answer differ with vul/scoring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Pass now, I've done enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 I would've bid 2♥ at first turn, then 3♣ over 2♠. I think it's important to show a major suit fit right away in case the opponents raise more aggressively, and 2♣ sounds like a stronger hand (in fact I think the given sequence of 2♣...3♥ should be forcing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Q1) no but then I play 2♣ is forcing and you have left your meaning unspecified I would just call 3♥ at my first turn assuming 5 card majorsQ2) over 2♠ I call 3♥ if I haven't already shown the values for this otherwise I passQ3) over 3♠ I believe partner has become the captain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Not sure I like my previous bids, but given my wimpish defensive valies and pard's silence, opps seem to have game on, so PASS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 2C followed by 3H is insane. Definitely pass now, you have SIX high card points! I would have bid 3C weak at the first turn if possible. Had I bid 2C at the first turn, I would have rebid 3C the second time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Your hand is not worth a lot in support of hearts because partner will not be able to do much with the club suit. If you want to show heart support, you should bid 2♥ over 1♠, then you can bid 3♣ next time if you get the chance as Adam suggested. Otherwise just bid your club suit and forget about hearts as Justin suggested. But you have to choose one or the other. Definitely do not bid again. I would sit for partner's double though it could be -730. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 I would sit for partner's double though it could be -730. I'd be too scared to do that. Partner thinks we have a 2335 or 1345 10-count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 ok, it looks like I overbid this one. I guessed as much based on the 4-digit negative result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 2♥ and then 3♣ will give partner a better picture of your hand in two bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 2♥ and then 3♣ will give partner a better picture of your hand in two bids. How often do you think you'll get to bid 2H and then 3C? Partner will still have no idea that there is this much disparity, it's not like he'll pass it with stiff K or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=sxhtxxdxxcaqt8xxx]133|100|Scoring: IMPP 1♥ 1♠ 2♣2♠ P P 3♥P P 3♠ ?[/hv] Do you agree with the bidding so far (and if not, how would you bid it)? Do you bid again? Does either answer differ with vul/scoring? pass I dont blame anyone for bidding a good 7 card suit before showing xxx support.pard will expect more from us but ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 The earlier bidding may be questionable but I sure know what to do now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 2♥ and then 3♣ will give partner a better picture of your hand in two bids. How often do you think you'll get to bid 2H and then 3C? Partner will still have no idea that there is this much disparity, it's not like he'll pass it with stiff K or something. Everytime it comes back to me at 2♠. I am not sure how often that is. Nevertheless it is surely a better description of this hand than 2♣ first which overstates the values and usually understates the club length. At least 2♥ followed by 3♣ if available shows long clubs and three hearts whereas the order shown shows only four clubs and three hearts maybe not even four clubs for some. Curiously playing negative free bids we often bid our six card suit first in this sort of auction and hope to show the three card support later. This seems to work out in that style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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