dickiegera Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Bidding goes: 1♥ -P- 1♠-2♣x* - P - 2♦ - P? *support double Is 2♦ Forcing?Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 No, but this is the type of follow up auction that it's very good to discuss before playing support doubles. As good as I think they are, they are probably the convention of which people are most guilty of failing to discuss style and follow ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Generally that say a lot of diamonds 5+ and 4 spades and not three hearts and not many high card points. If you want to sure to force 3C is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Generally that say a lot of diamonds 5+ and 4 spades and not three hearts and not many high card points. If you want to sure to force 3C is available. We agree. If opener is minimum it is simply an attempt to improve upon playing 2♠ in a 4-3 fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 NF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 With 5♠4♦ hands, no matter how strong there is no real need for bidding 2♦, you know of 8 spade fit.So it more logical to use it for 5♦4♠, now with this distribution and GF you will begin with 2♦ over 1♠, so it cant be GF, it also cant be too weak since you would have bid 2S, so it should be somewhere in between and should therefore be constructive but not forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 agree to the weak 5♦4♠ canape-ish interpretation. Really, I don't see what else it can logically be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 agree to the weak 5♦4♠ canape-ish interpretation. Really, I don't see what else it can logically be. -pick a major partscore (2-4 in the majors)-mild game try with 5♠ and 5♦-pick a partscore with 4♠ and 4♦ Not that I'd play any of these but I know several popular treatments (of other auctions) that are inferior to all these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Not forcing. Just a cheap way to try to find our best partscore fit, responder has only 4-card spades and probably 5+ diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 I am not an expert on support doubles but I can't see how a minimum bid when we have so far promised only minimum values and partner has essentially forced us to make another bid can be anything other than nonforcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Agree with Wayne. I would expect something like ♠Kxxx♥xx♦Axxxx♣xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 How about this auction: 1♦ - pass - 1♥ - 2♣Dbl* - pass - 2♠ * support Is 2♠ forcing or not? It has to show at least invitational values, but can opener pass on a minimum 3352 or 4342? (we saw Meckwell disagree about this sequence on vugraph a while back) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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