Hanoi5 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 All red, LHO deals and passes, your partner opens 1♠, RHO passes and you hold: ♠AQJx♥Axx♦Axx♣Qxx You can 2NT (13+ with 4-card support), 4♣ 3-card support ultra balanced 16-17 or some other you fancy, what will it be? There'll be a continuation after some answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 All red, LHO deals and passes, your partner opens 1♠, RHO passes and you hold: ♠AQJx♥Axx♦Axx♣Qxx You can 2NT (13+ with 4-card support), 4♣ 3-card support ultra balanced 16-17 or some other you fancy, what will it be? There'll be a continuation after some answers. the 9th trump is big; so don't lie with 4♣ call 2NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Agree pooltuna. With 3xA, partner is devaluing his CA/aceless, quacks hand. I want what he has, not his opinion 'quacks' 'poor controls'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 2NT of course; I would like partner to describe her hand; I think that will lead to a smoother more pleasant auction in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Yes, wrong forum too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Yes, wrong forum too. Yeah..I have great 4 card support so 2NT it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Yes, wrong forum too. Miaaw! Obvious 2NT: it's what we have and we stay lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 I once constructed this convention: Stalin III swiss: 1♠ - 3NT = 15-17 balanced and four card support (normally a 4-3-3-3 hand). I played it for two years, and didn't see a hand that fit, so I tossed it out. Even if I still played it, I would be reluctant to use it on this hand, as there are to few intermidiates in the non-spade suits. (For those still reading, the convention was intended to be able to give us unobstructed slamexploration with one hand already well-described, and to limit the number of annoying lead-directing bids from fourth hand.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 If you bid 4♣ partner will autobid 4♠ with his poor trumps, you might just as well bid 4♠ and then maybe someone bids 5 something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 If you bid 4♣ partner will autobid 4♠ with his poor trumps, you might just as well bid 4♠ and then maybe someone bids 5 something. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Hi, 2NT, keeps the bidding lower, but I dont mind 4C, if it showes 16-17 bal. with 3 card support. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 I want what he has, not his opinion 'quacks' 'poor controls'.Unfortunately, this wish might not come true unless opener is a puppet (at least momentarily) in your J2N agreements. If he rebids a non-descript 3C, as a lot of pairs will, this auction will get sticky. Maybe someone can share what their follow-ups are after the somewhat random 3C, as they relate to this type of hand. The old non-J2N people would have bridge-logic tools (hidden) available, but probably would still have a problem convincing opener that the trump suit was this solid --and this hand is not really an advertisement for switching to that style. 1M-2N? -4N= quant 1M-2N? -4S =18 or so bal with 4 trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted July 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 How do you propose to reach 7 with: ♠KTxxxx♥KQ♦xx♣AKx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 exagerating a bit 1♠-2NT3♠-4♦4♥-4NT5♥-5NT6♥vor 7 ♠ 3♠= 6 or more spades, extras no shortness 5NT is extra trick inquiry, 6♥ shows 2 extra tricks: ♣K and ♥Q, could just as well be ♦K and ♣K. Also 7th spade and a king I guess, but then, where are the extras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 How do you propose to reach 7 with: ♠KTxxxx♥KQ♦xx♣AKxI can't count to a sure 13 tricks in the bidding, no matter who takes control. Let's say it starts:1S - Jac2NT!3NT! ( no shortness; better hand than 4S reply but not as strong as 3S reply ) Now after a cuebid or two, a) If Responder takes control with 4NT ( RKC ), he can find the missing key cardsand specifically the ♣K and the ♥K Q but no ♦K . He'll be at the 7 level but only can count 12 sure ones not knowing about Opener's 6th Sp. b ) ( see Edit below) If Opener takes control with 4NT, he'll find the missing key cards and the ♠Q but no outside K's (6S reply ) and thus, he'll be too high for a ♣Q-ask. Edit.....b ) Actually, if Opener takes control with 4NT, there is no need for the trump-Q ask since he knows of the 10 card fit with the A K: 1S - 2NT!3NT! - 4D ( Diam cue, no Cl Ctrl )4NT - 5C ( 0 or 3 )6C! ( 3rd Rnd Ctrl ask; by-passing the 5NT K-ask) - 6NT ( Cl Q; NT shows feature in asking-suit )7S Now can count to 13: 6s, 3h( unless Responder has less than 3 Hts) , 1d, 3c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted July 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 After: 1♠-2NT3♠-4♦4NT-5♦5♥-5NT6♠ (That was my partner) 6♣ should ask for a third round control of the club suit (since 5NT denied extra kings), and then 7♠ is bid. 6♠-7♠ (Why is partner asking for the queen and then stopping when I give it? Since he bid 3♠ he doesn't have a minimum hand therefore the grand is bid) After: 1♠-4♣4NT!-5♦7♠! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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