fimm fimm

[gwnn]

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AJxxx

AKJxx

xxx

 

1H-1S

2D-4H

 

not sure what partner is doing!

 

over 1H we have

1N possibly a 3 card limit raise

2H normal single raise

2N 4 trumps GF

3C 4 trumps with about 8 points

3D 4 trumps with about 10 points

3H 4 trumps with any number of points that is not really 8

[paulg]

I'm passing, we have at least two club losers.

 

AKQxx

KQx

x

xxxx

[aguahombre]

I'm passing, we have at least two club losers.

 

AKQxx

KQx

x

xxxx

My guess is close to this, but our picture jumps don't have an outside control, even in a suit partner has bid. So, (2-3) in minors, or 5-4-2-2. I know there were other ways to show four hearts, but responder might have chosen this route with everything concentrated in the majors.

 

No Club control, pass.

[ONEferBRID]

This could be a "dangerous" splinter.

 

We had a similar looking sequence in a recent post back on April 1, 2010 :

 

http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=38337&st=15

 

It was:

1♣ Pass 1♦ Pass

1♥ Pass 4♣ = splinter for Hts

 

Justin ( Jlal ) argued that the 4th Suit forcing bid was NOT used, it made the 4C double-jump a splinter for the last bid suit ( Hts ).

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Thus, by the same argument the 4th suit GF ( 3C!) was not used ( as well as the other alternatives including 1H - 4H ) for this sequence:

 

1H-1S

2D-4H = splinter for Diam.

[gwnn]

I guarantee you 100% that 4♥ was not a splinter.

[hanp]

Now people here are so sophisticated that they have to ask what a bridge 101 game bid means?

[kfay]

nevermind

[kayin801]

Heart limit with 4+ spades that got better with diamond fit, like AJxx, Kxx, Qxxx, xx or thereabouts. I wouldn't look into this too much.

[hanp]

doesn't have to be such a hand, may just be AQxxx Kxx xx Kxx.

[Phil]

Heart limit with 4+ spades that got better with diamond fit, like AJxx, Kxx, Qxxx, xx or thereabouts. I wouldn't look into this too much.

Agree. Jumps to game should either show limit raises that were improved by opener's call (fitting honor(s) or shortness) or minimum-ish GF.

 

Otherwise opener can be boxed and has to guess whether or not to continue with middlish hands (15-16 or so).

[Bbradley62]

not sure what partner is doing!

He is ending the auction in game of your first suit, having shown his best suit in case either that was a better fit or he could upgrade his hand on the basis of a double fit.

[Cascade]

4♥ is a three card raise with game values.

 

With a better hand partner goes through fourth suit forcing.

 

Occasionally we could miss a good slam when partner doesn't realize his hand is gold. Here for example:

 

♠ xxxx

♥ KQx

♦ Qxx

♣ KQJ

 

would be a slam but partner won't be thinking this is good.

 

I suppose some may choose not to bid this four card spade suit especially if you have a better way to show a three card raise.