ksk2005 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Would ♠J10xx ♥QXXX ♦X ♣KQxx qualify for 3rd seat opening? If you were a TD would you condiser this hand a psyche open or normal 3rd seat opening? Please only comment if you are qualified, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 that's one of the main reasons why banning psyckes is completelly nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Depends completely on what system the players are using Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Yes, and just thought I had better mention that han's mathematical credentials mean he was qualified to make that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 I can add to 14 like the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 1♦, 1♥ and 1NT would be psyche. So would 2♦, 2♥, 2NT and 3♦ or higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campboy Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 If you want answers from TDs you would be better off posting in the laws and rulings forums. (I'm assuming for sake of argument that the hand in question is actually JTxx, Qxx, x, KQxxx.) As others have said, whether it is a psyche or not depends on the pair's agreements. An agreement to open this light may or may not be permitted; it is in England (but only in 3rd/4th). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Would ♠J10xx ♥QXXX ♦X ♣KQxxx qualify for 3rd seat opening? If you were a TD would you condiser this hand a psyche open or normal 3rd seat opening? Please only comment if you are qualified, thank you. considering where you posted this what are your definitions for "qualified"? You aren't one of those people who open a table in the MBR and advertise for "only real experts" are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 lol@qualified lol@14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Don't know about qualified, but I've been told I'm certifiable before. Does that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu1997 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 i have seen partner open this against me in 3rd seat, 1club, never any thing good came of it so i bid them farewell. but i could live with a 1 spade opening only i am qualified, the experts at the main club so scared of me they deny me seats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 playing 2 way drury, I might open 1S, otherwise 1C. I'd only pass if I feared partner doesnt have a sense of humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 I am not qualified to say whether it's a psyche or not. It really depends if it's their style to open this kind of hands. If their cc said explicitly that they don't open very light in 3rd seat then it's either a psyche or a misbid. Otherwise I would think it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 oh anyway sure I'd always open 1♣. If I was playing precision I would contemplate a 2♣ bid to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 oh anyway sure I'd always open 1♣. If I was playing precision I would contemplate a 2♣ bid to be honest.lol. I was about to post, and will now post, that I would never open this hand. Too light to be a light opener, for me, and too strong to be a psyche. I hardly ever psyche these days, but when I did, we had a rule (that we announced) that psyches were rarely as much as 5 hcp. 8 is way too strong....they are less likely to make game, partner is less likely to be warned by their action that someone is psyching (and he is allowed to deduce its you, if he does so based on bridge logic) and so on. Besides, 1♣ is an anti-preempt. A fake precision 2♣ is more attractive since it a real preempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 oh anyway sure I'd always open 1♣. If I was playing precision I would contemplate a 2♣ bid to be honest. I sometimes describe my 3 suited 2♦ opener in precision as 4415 minus any card. I guess this hand doesn't qualify since the last step of the description hasn't occured yet. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 oh anyway sure I'd always open 1♣. If I was playing precision I would contemplate a 2♣ bid to be honest. I sometimes describe my 3 suited 2♦ opener in precision as 4415 minus any card. I guess this hand doesn't qualify since the last step of the description hasn't occured yet. :) Indeed it can hardly be a deliberate gross misdescription when someone else gave you the fourteen cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 disagree. failure to call the director would be a psyche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 hey wtf? didn't the original hand have Qxx of hearts? hmmm. I think it's a conspiracy. interesting how the mind works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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