pbleighton Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Playing SA or 2/1, is it ever appropriate to open a hand with a 5 card suit (and not in your NT range) one of a minor , i.e. 65432 - K9 - KJ83 - AK Would you consider a 1D opening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Hi, make it 65432, 32,AKQJ, Ax and the answer is the same: NEVER First: The game is designed around the majors, not the minors. Second: If you have a fit with 23456 opps. 789.You make zero tricks in this suit if it is not trump. The ops will make 3 tricks, if their cards break 3-2.If you have the same suit, but it is trump, the opps still make their 3 tricks, but you two. This looks like a big gain to me.And the chance, that you reach a fit with 8 or more cards wiithout HCPs is quite small. ;) So always aways always bid 1 Spade. There is just one big different "school" out there: Bid 1 NT with f.e. 5332 and a weak major and the needed HCPs. It was always a big quarrel, whether it is better the one way or the other, but I guess that nowadays, it is a little more modern to bid 1 NT with f.e.xxxxx,AKx,AQx,KJ or so...But to bid 1 diamond with your hand is no good idea. Kind Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Playing SA or 2/1, is it ever appropriate to open a hand with a 5 card suit (and not in your NT range) one of a minor , i.e. 65432 - K9 - KJ83 - AK Would you consider a 1D opening? LOL Good question. If a gun was put to my head u couldnt talk me into opening this hand 1S!! In my opinion that is a four card suit so i would open 1D.I have been in 4s down 1 with this hand type too many times when 3nt was the correct strain. I will gladly play spades if over my 1d opening pard bids spades or i rebid 1s and am raised by pard. I'm sure this answer will cause a little controversy but....... such is life. Good luck and keep asking good questions like this. It shows you r thinking the rite thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Open this hand with 1D and you will never recover in the bidding. If this falls in the NT range, I'd open 1NT else 1S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 I agree with Roland on this, SPADE - 65432 looks like a four card suit to me. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Ben, how are you going to get to 4S oppositeAKx xx AQxx xxxx ?You can probably invent some sort of sequence, but it will be tortuous at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Ben, how are you going to get to 4S oppositeAKx xx AQxx xxxx ?You can probably invent some sort of sequence, but it will be tortuous at best. I have to admit that I might end up in one of three different game contracts.. 3NT by me, 5D by me, or 4S by me. In simple 2/1 the bidding would be.... 1D-2D inverted minor2S-? Now it all depends upon partners bid. If he raises Spades because he has 13 and no stopper in either side suit, I get to 4S. If he bids 3D for the same for the same reason, I most likely to bid 3NT with my hand. If partner pulls 3NT, I have to admit that it is 5D that we get to. The problem with 1S with this hand is an auction like 1S-1N2x-2S Playing in a 5-2 fit this suit will not be a good contract. Second, if you fail to buy the contract do you really want your partner to lead a SPADE? In the long run, we each have to decide what our bidding style is. I open five card majors, but this doesn't look like five cards to my old eyes. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreptak Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 I agree with Codo on this.Correctly bid is 1S and only !Sbut if you have 5 cards in C and 4 cards in D and no more than 16TP your correctly bid is one D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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