Phil Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 LOL @ making a questionable call and posting it on the forums for justification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Phil: you of all people :huh: pooltuna: partner was bidding to make, but we, besides having a lot more aces than average, also have a lot less diamonds than promised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Phil: you of all people :huh: pooltuna: partner was bidding to make, but we, besides having a lot more aces than average, also have a lot less diamonds than promised. I don't look at it that way. For a 5♦ call partner needs 8-9 tricks in hand to justify it we have either 2 or 4 so we rate to make anywhere between 10 and 13 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 LOL @ making a questionable call and posting it on the forums for justification. I wouldn't have posted it if I thought my action was anything but questionable. I'm not arguing with posters, either, I'm just explaining my reasoning in the hope that the people I respect (not you at the moment after that last comment, in case you are curious) would comment and point out where my reasoning might be flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 They just take their heart ace and their trump trick, then we will have 7 more diamond tricks+our two aces+KQJ of clubs! yay! and the K of spades, that's 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Phil: you of all people ;) pooltuna: partner was bidding to make, but we, besides having a lot more aces than average, also have a lot less diamonds than promised. I don't look at it that way. For a 5♦ call partner needs 8-9 tricks in hand to justify it we have either 2 or 4 so we rate to make anywhere between 10 and 13 tricks.I think you are forgetting that the opponents are on lead. We may have between 10-13 tricks but we may also have 2 losers off the top. If partner has Kx in both black suits that would contribute 2 spade tricks and 4 club tricks but that is of no use to him if a heart is led. Putting it another way, if partner has Kx in both black suits (6 tricks from the black suits), that means if partner has ♦AQJxxxxx producing 7 diamond tricks, does that mean we have 13 tricks? Edit: Sorry, gwnn was faster and shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 andy_h, ur a slow typist ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmilne Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 LOL @ making a questionable call and posting it on the forums for discussion.and here was me thinking that's what the forums were for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 I would raise, 5♦ is not a call to be taken lightly! That being said partner's hand is pretty ridiculous for that bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted June 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I would raise, 5♦ is not a call to be taken lightly! That being said partner's hand is pretty ridiculous for that bid. Now that you have both hands, how do you think the auction should have been bid? (RHO overcalls 1 heart over 1 diamond if possible). [hv=d=n&v=b&n=sq95hdakt87643ck2&s=sa842hj9753dcaqj5]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 3♦ - 3NT - 4♦ - cuebidding - 6♦ seems about right after the negative double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 5♦ jump sure looks attractive. I would probably have passed it, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 3♦ - 3NT - 4♦ - cuebidding - 6♦ seems about right after the negative double. Don't agree with 3D, I'd bid 2H unless I'm playing with a complete idiot. (just teasing you Gibson) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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