CSGibson Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=sakjt876432hqd42c]133|100|Scoring: IMP(p)-?[/hv] Freakish hands have no correct bidding sequence other than the one that makes you declarer, of course, but how to ensure that? Say you open 1♠. LHO decides to preempt 3♥, and partner makes a negative double which RHO passes. Now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Looks like a weak 2 at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Its an opening 4♠ or 5♠ if you think that's too many spades for 4♠ - definitely not an opening 1♠ . The queen of ♥ is worth nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Would rather brave the wrath of the RA than the wrath of CHO. Let's see: what opening call and follow-up suggests 10 tricks at spades and demands cue bidding by partner + answers to asking bids? I am 3 tricks too heavy for 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I saw this a few hours ago and hated the opening bid the player I watched chose. I didn't like his partner's choice of call either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I saw this a few hours ago and hated the opening bid the player I watched chose. I didn't like his partner's choice of call either. which were? Personally I was playing with a bad pick-up, so I just punted 6♠ after opening 1♠ and getting the sequence of bids I described in the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I think 1♠ is ok, 4♠ might work out also. I think phil watched someone open 2♣ wich is truly ugly. after 1♠ and take out double 6♠ seems reasonable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Looks like a weak 2 at the club. Dog scratching at the door to get out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I think 1♠ is ok, 4♠ might work out also. I think phil watched someone open 2♣ wich is truly ugly. after 1♠ and take out double 6♠ seems reasonable to me. Correct. But the tragedy was the pass of 4♠ with xx Qx Axx AQJxxx (might be a card off). I'm OK with a 4N opening for specific Aces, or Namyats and another move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I would rebid 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 1♠, only cause 2♣ and 4♠+ are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 But the tragedy was the pass of 4♠ with xx Qx Axx AQJxxx (might be a card off). I assume you meant the 4S opening was the tragedy. Passing a 4S opener with that hand seems normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 But the tragedy was the pass of 4♠ with xx Qx Axx AQJxxx (might be a card off). I assume you meant the 4S opening was the tragedy. Passing a 4S opener with that hand seems normal. No. The auction was: 2♣ - (2♦) - 3♣ - (4♥);4♠ - AP. 2♦ was suction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Yep, a trajedy. If my pard opens 2C, and I have that hand, she won't be shutting me up with 4♠. Maybe an easy 5S, if it means two heart losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I think 1♠ is ok, 4♠ might work out also. I think phil watched someone open 2♣ wich is truly ugly. after 1♠ and take out double 6♠ seems reasonable to me. Correct. But the tragedy was the pass of 4♠ with xx Qx Axx AQJxxx (might be a card off). I'm OK with a 4N opening for specific Aces, or Namyats and another move. The actual responding hand was [hv=s=s95ht8dak7caqjt93]133|100|[/hv], so it's even more atrocious than you thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 (1S then after the given start:) 6S. lalalallalalalalalaalalallaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I must admit I tend to pass this type of hand. The bidding never dies, and you can often judge better what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 if my partner opens 2♣ he will be ashamed because we will play 7NT in a flash. Hopefully that would teach him a lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=sakjt876432hqd42c]133|100|Scoring: IMP(p)-?[/hv] Freakish hands have no correct bidding sequence other than the one that makes you declarer, of course, but how to ensure that? Say you open 1♠. LHO decides to preempt 3♥, and partner makes a negative double which RHO passes. Now? Fortunately there are only 10,455,016 of these 10-card suit hands so you won't have to deal with them often. Certainly not often enough to modify your bidding system in any major way. So we should just try to compute the approximate odds of making a slam and if appropriate bid it now. Since partner holding either the A or K of ♦ looks like the most critical item I would go with the probablility of partner holding one; i.e. 55%. So my call would be 6♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 if my partner opens 2♣ he will be ashamed because we will play 7NT in a flash. Hopefully that would teach him a lesson. Yes it would; but not the lesson you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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