kgr Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Roland,For the Italian tables:Is there always one in English and one in Italian.Or is it possible that both are in Italian, but one of them also has English commentators.(Just want to know: if Italian comments, should I wait a bit to see if there is also English comments on the same table)...I can also accept that if the Italians are paying this that both tables are Italian.Thanks,Koen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Roland,For the Italian tables:Is there always one in English and one in Italian.Or is it possible that both are in Italian, but one of them also has English commentators.(Just want to know: if Italian comments, should I wait a bit to see if there is also English comments on the same table)...I can also accept that if the Italians are paying this that both tables are Italian.Thanks,Koen Yes, always one table with Italian and one table with English commentary. We do not mix languages at one table. Commentators must be able to understand each other. As I said before, we always have English at one table no matter what a given federation pays to have their matches broadcast. They can't demand their own language at both tables. As a matter of fact, they always ask if it is possible to have their language at just one table. The BBO policy is to meet their wish if at all possible. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Open series standings before the final 9 matches. VPs against teams they met in the RR are carried forward. The teams now play against the 9 teams they did not play against in the round-robin. 01 ITALY 148 02 ICELAND 147 03 ISRAEL 143 04 SWEDEN 142 05 FRANCE 140 06 RUSSIA 130 07 POLAND 127 08 BULGARIA 121.5 09 TURKEY 118 10 NETHERLANDS 115 11 ENGLAND 111 12 SWITZERLAND 109 13 ESTONIA 102 14 NORWAY 102 15 DENMARK 101 16 PORTUGAL 100 17 GERMANY 97.5 18 LATVIA 96 The teams have more than medals to play for. Top 6 will qualify for the Bermuda Bowl in the Netherlands next year. If NL are among those, a seventh team also qualifies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 In addition, the top 10 teams acquire the right to send a team to the Champions Trophy in Turkey. If Turkey is among the top 10, the 11th team also qualifies. It's getting as complicated as soccer league tables :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uygar Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 As has happened several times in the past, Italy and France have rented a BBO box for the entire tournament. The federations pay a fee to the EBL, and all expenses. In theory, all federations could do likewise and we would have nothing but vugraph matches. What a thrill (not). As for England it may well be that they are on vugraph more han other countries (I am not sure). Maybe because they are good? I can't think of any other reason. This it not a social event; the organisers choose the best matches possible outside the mandatory two, see above. It is obviously hopeless to please everybody, but I am sure they try hard to show what the majority would think are good matches. This time round I actually think they have done a very good job. Roland No comment :) " As for England it may well be that they are on vugraph more han other countries (I am not sure). Maybe because they are good? "Carry Over subject to official confirmation 1 ITALY 148 2 ICELAND 147 3 ISRAEL 143 4 SWEDEN 142 5 FRANCE 140 6 RUSSIA 130 7 POLAND 127 8 BULGARIA 121,5 9 TURKEY 118 10 NETHERLANDS 115 11 ENGLAND 111 12 SWITZERLAND 109 13 NORWAY 102 14 ESTONIA 102 15 DENMARK 101 16 PORTUGAL 100 17 GERMANY 97,5 18 LATVIA 96 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 As has happened several times in the past, Italy and France have rented a BBO box for the entire tournament. The federations pay a fee to the EBL, and all expenses. In theory, all federations could do likewise and we would have nothing but vugraph matches. What a thrill (not). As for England it may well be that they are on vugraph more han other countries (I am not sure). Maybe because they are good? I can't think of any other reason. This it not a social event; the organisers choose the best matches possible outside the mandatory two, see above. It is obviously hopeless to please everybody, but I am sure they try hard to show what the majority would think are good matches. This time round I actually think they have done a very good job. Roland No comment :) " As for England it may well be that they are on vugraph more han other countries (I am not sure). Maybe because they are good? "Carry Over subject to official confirmation 1 ITALY 148 2 ICELAND 147 3 ISRAEL 143 4 SWEDEN 142 5 FRANCE 140 6 RUSSIA 130 7 POLAND 127 8 BULGARIA 121,5 9 TURKEY 118 10 NETHERLANDS 115 11 ENGLAND 111 12 SWITZERLAND 109 13 NORWAY 102 14 ESTONIA 102 15 DENMARK 101 16 PORTUGAL 100 17 GERMANY 97,5 18 LATVIA 96 This is unfair, because you have the final standings in the round-robin. They were much higher when we had them on vugraph many times. Then they had a bad spell and the organisers realised that. So they were not on at all Monday and only once Tuesday. That makes much more sense. There are lies, and then there are statistics. The difference is marginal. My guess is that we won't see England much in the finals, but I don't know, because the EBL decides which matches we get. BBO does not interfere with those decisions. No, the ones who decide are not Englishmen. They are French. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Wednesday June 30 at 10.30, 14.15 and 17.35 CEST. Open series unless stated. The open teams have the morning off. 10.30Switzerland v Italy (Women R19)Belgium v Turkey (Women R19)England v Sweden (Women R19)Austria v Israel (Seniors R12)Germany v France (Seniors R12) Finals Round 1Italy v PortugalFrance v EstoniaEngland v BulgariaDenmark v IcelandIsrael v Sweden (Seniors R13) Finals Round 2Italy v EnglandNetherlands v IcelandFrance v PolandSweden v TurkeyGermany v Italy (Seniors R14) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 This is unfair, because you have the final standings in the round-robin. They were much higher when we had them on vugraph many times. Then they had a bad spell and the organisers realised that. I think that is fair comment. England not only did well early on - they also might reasonably have been expected to do well due their relatively good showing in Beijing a while back. Then they slipped a bit and got quite a lot less coverage - which is only to be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Thursday July 1 at 10.30, 14.15 and 17.35 CEST. Open series unless stated. Finals Round 3Russia v ItalyNorway v PolandIsrael v FranceIceland v SwedenFrance v Germany (Women R22) Finals Round 4 Italy v DenmarkPortugal v FranceNetherlands v BulgariaGermany v IsraelPoland v Turkey Finals Round 5 Italy v NetherlandsEngland v FranceIceland v PolandTurkey v IsraelBulgaria v Sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Hi Roland,Will there be any vugraph of the 50th anniversary tournament?Thanks,Koen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Hi Roland,Will there be any vugraph of the 50th anniversary tournament?Thanks,Koen No information, but I doubt it. I will ask Guy Lambeaux, our onsite coordinator, tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted July 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Hi Roland,Will there be any vugraph of the 50th anniversary tournament?Thanks,Koen No information, but I doubt it. I will ask Guy Lambeaux, our onsite coordinator, tomorrow. No plans I am told, mainly because that event is played in a different building. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted July 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Now that we are approaching the end of the championships we have a couple of TBD's. For obvious reasons, the organisers want to have a look at the standings before they make all decisions. This is what we have got for you so far regarding Friday July 2. Starting times are 10.30, 14.15 and 17.35 CEST. Open series unless stated. Finals Round 6Sweden v ItalyFrance v RussiaIsrael v IcelandAustria v Italy (Seniors R18)Netherlands v England (Women R25) Finals round 7 Estonia v ItalyFrance v DenmarkSweden v Italy (Women R26)4th match To Be Decided.5th match To Be Decided Finals Round 8 Israel v BulgariaSweden v FrancePoland v Italy4th match To Be Decided5th match To Be Decided Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterGill Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Also, I think the top 3 teams (who did not come in the top 3 in Sao Paulo) qualify for the 2011 Yeh Cup in Wuchi (or Wuxi) in April 2001. More details of this event were in the Daily Bulletins at the recent Pacific Asia Championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted July 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Last day of the championships Saturday July 3. The women finished Friday (congratulations to 1. France - 2. Netherlands - 3. Sweden), but the open teams have one more round, and the seniors three. Starting times are 9.30, 12.15 and 15.15 CEST. Seniors R21Italy v DenmarkEngland v GermanyFrance v Switzerland Finals Round 9 (open)Italy v IsraelRussia v IcelandGermany v PolandSweden v France Seniors R23Italy v FrancePoland v AustriaBulgaria v Israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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