Forcing or not?

[MickyB]

(1♥)-2♦-(2♥)-2♠

 

Is this forcing as standard? Is that your preferred definition?

[gwnn]

4th seat can never force when everyone is bidding, except when he is cuebidding or bidding some number of NT's as a raise.

[mike777]

(1♥)-2♦-(2♥)-2♠

 

Is this forcing as standard? Is that your preferred definition?

Nf

 

 

but decent hand with decent cards.

[gnasher]

Non-forcing, like almost all new suits in competition. If you want to force, you have to double and then bid your suit.

[kgr]

Non-forcing, like almost all new suits in competition.  If you want to force, you have to double and then bid your suit.

4th seat can never force when everyone is bidding, except when he is cuebidding or bidding some number of NT's as a raise.

And:

(2H)-3D-(3H)-3S

=> That should be forcing, or not?

[gnasher]

And:

(2H)-3D-(3H)-3S

=> That should be forcing, or not?

I play these bids as forcing after the opponents have made a weak opening. I don't know if that's standard.

[gwnn]

Yes 3S is forcing there. My rule applies only for the 1 level.

 

I never really thought about something like

 

1c-1h-2s-3d where 2s is weak

 

but I think 3D should still be NF

[andy_h]

Strongly prefer NF. The auction has gotten competitive, it is utmost important to get your suit across before you need to make a final guess later. It also helps on partner's lead.

[lmilne]

agree with hung-dog, if i can't bid KJTxxx and some other bits and pieces and here, we need a new competitive system.

[Phil]

Non-forcing, like almost all new suits in competition. If you want to force, you have to double and then bid your suit.

This is how I play it. With a pass on my right Þhen 2♠ is forcing.

[P_Marlowe]

(1♥)-2♦-(2♥)-2♠

 

Is this forcing as standard? Is that your preferred definition?

Most likely a matter of region, we play 2S as NF, but NF does not mean

garbage, and I think it would be hard to convince me, to play it as forcing.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[jjbrr]

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agree with whatever the f that word is.

 

nf.

[MickyB]

Ok, thank goodness - everyone in the pub last night (a strong selection of players, including one who is world class) said it was forcing, thought I was going crazy!

 

What would a minimum 6223 look like for the 2S bid, say favourable at teams?

[gwnn]

KQT and out

[hanp]

Non-forcing.

 

2H - 3D - 3H - 3S forcing.

 

1H - 2D - 3H - 3S errrr non-forcing?

[effervesce]

1♦ - (3♥) - 3♠ is forcing though yes?

 

As for 1H - 2D - 3H - 3S- if 3♥ is 0-5 I think forcing is more useful?

[gwnn]

Yes.

 

F for 0-5

NF for 0-8

 

0-6 and 0-7 are tricky.

[gnasher]

1H - 2D - 3H - 3S errrr non-forcing?

Yes. No errrs about it.