How to play the cub suit?

[kgr]

[hv=d=n&v=n&n=sqj9hak76dt96cq86&s=sat5ht84dakckt432]133|200|Scoring: MP

1C-(1S)-3NT-All Pass[/hv]

Lead is ♠7 (1st/3th/5th), you play the J from dummy for the K and A.

Best play of the Club suit without the overcall is small to the Q, and then to the Ten (?).

But doe this change now that RHO did overcall 1S (and is more likely shorter in C and more likely that he has ♣A)?

[gwnn]

Yes, I think so, I would play hA and low club to King and then duck a club.

 

Since there is some blank space at the end of this post, I hope you don't mind me saying that the correct form of "did overcall" here is "overcalled". You use "did" for past only when you want to especially emphasize something.

[Hanoi5]

I would play as gwnn mentioned and would like to add in my empty space (more as a question), isn't kgr emphasizing when he says 'did overcall'? I mean the question as a grammar question, what's the problem with emphasizing in this context? I saw it as that and not as a mistake.

[pooltuna]

[hv=d=n&v=n&n=sqj9hak76dt96cq86&s=sat5ht84dakckt432]133|200|Scoring: MP

1C-(1S)-3NT-All Pass[/hv]

Lead is ♠7 (1st/3th/5th), you play the J from dummy for the K and A.

Best play of the Club suit without the overcall is small to the Q, and then to the Ten (?).

But doe this change now that RHO did overcall 1S (and is more likely shorter in C and more likely that he has ♣A)?

The strategy ought to be to release the first double stopper(we have 3 at this point) in a suit we have the least amount of worry about...♥ that way we get to the board and lead a ♣ to the K and return another covering LHO's card. Now if ♥s are 5-1 RHO will probably be out and unable to continue.

[kgr]

...that way we get to the board and lead a ♣ to the K and return another covering LHO's card...

Probably not cover if ♣K won (2 small clubs with opps) and LHO plays ♣9 on the 2nd ♣?

[gwnn]

Reconsidering, it was careless reading by me. It makes perfect sense to use 'did overcall' there since it is placed in contrast with 'without the overcall' I apologise for my unsolicited and, what's worse, incorrect hijack. I will try to be less off-topic.

[kgr]

Reconsidering, it was careless reading by me. It makes perfect sense to use 'did overcall' there since it is placed in contrast with 'without the overcall' I apologise for my unsolicited and...

No Problem (My English is not perfect)

]..., what's worse, incorrect hijack. I will try to be less off-topic.

big problem :unsure:

[gszeszycki]

Dealer: North

Vul: N/S

Scoring: MP

♠ QJ9

♥ AK76

♦ T96

♣ Q86

 

♠ AT5

♥ T84

♦ AK

♣ KT432

 

1C-(1S)-3NT-All Pass

 

Lead is ♠7 (1st/3th/5th), you play the J from dummy for the K and A.

Best play of the Club suit without the overcall is small to the Q, and then to the Ten (?).

But doe this change now that RHO did overcall 1S (and is more likely shorter in C and more likely that he has ♣A)?

 

with 2 stops in all side suits and needing only 2 clubs to make game if clubs break 32 it matters not how we play the suit. What is the right play that will make whenever clubs break 32 as well as when they break poorly (w/o) having to guess right. The relevant cases are:

 

 

AJ975 void----------------QJ9-----------------void AJ975

AJ97 5-------------------AK76---------------5 AJ97

AJ95 7-------------------T96-----------------7 AJ95

AJ75 9-------------------Q86-----------------9 AJ75

J975 A----------------------------------------A J975

A975 J----------------------------------------J A975

---------------------------AT5

---------------------------T84

---------------------------AK

---------------------------KT432

 

the real problem with this hand is making sure RHO does not win more then 2 clubs (before we win 2 clubs) because that is the only way this hand will be set (lho heavy favorite to have 1/2 spades)

 

the correct play at trick 2 is to lead low toward the board and play according to what card is played by LHO:

 

5 cover with 8 if this wins hand is over if it loses to 9 playing low to Q next round (after winning spade return in hand) wins no matter how clubs divide. If it loses to J or A hand is over.

 

7 same as above cover with 8 for same reasons.

 

9 /cover with Q hand is over if RHO is void come to hand with spade and lead toward 86 lho has to win or hand is over win return wherever they lead and lead the 8 hand is over./ if J falls hand is over/ if rho wins A then win next return in dummy if possible (if they return a dia win in hand and lead low toward 86.

 

J cover and hand is over.

 

A duck and hand is over.

 

Playing low toward dummy at trick 2 will go down ONLY when rho has singleton 9 and makes a deadly red suit switch (if they continue spades no problem). If 9 wins first club and rho makes red suit switch best bet is to play for 32 clubs.

 

This line of play does not require us to weaken our holding in any side suit and going down will be so rare as to be nonexistent.

[bid_em_up]

Beary Carefully.

[gnasher]

the real problem with this hand is making sure RHO does not win more then 2 clubs (before we win 2 clubs) because that is the only way this hand will be set  (lho heavy favorite to have 1/2 spades) 

 

That would be true if it wasn't matchpoints. But you're right that it would be interesting at IMPs.

 

Playing low toward dummy at trick 2 will go down ONLY when rho has singleton 9 and makes a deadly red suit switch (if they continue spades no problem). If 9 wins first club and rho makes red suit switch best bet is to play for 32 clubs.

I imagine that RHO almost always will switch to diamonds, but we may not need 3-2 clubs. After a club to dummy's queen, RHO showing out, we can still play for hearts 3-3.

[gwnn]

So you don't play RHO for the ace? I mean he overcalled on a relatively bad suit and all. I like overcalling on Kxxxx QJx QJx xx but not many people in the field do.