I never get these right :/

[Little Kid]

[hv=d=s&v=b&s=sa95hj98432d94ct9]133|100|Scoring: IMP

Pass-(2♠)-X-(3♠)

Pass-(4♠)-X-(Pass)

  ?[/hv]

Two questions:

 

a ) Do you pass over 3♠?

b ) What do you do if you passed and this comes back?

[kfay]

[hv=d=s&v=b&s=sa95hj98432d94ct9]133|100|Scoring: IMP

Pass-(2♠)-X-(3♠)

Pass-(4♠)-X-(Pass)

  ?[/hv]

Two questions:

 

a ) Do you pass over 3♠?

b ) What do you do if you passed and this comes back?

Yes I would pass.

 

At this vul I'll just pass with a trick. My ♠A may be totally worthless on offense. Sure I have 6 hearts but 11 tricks are a lot..

[Hanoi5]

I'd pass now but I would have bid 4♥.

[kfay]

I'd pass now but I would have bid 4♥.

Oops! Yeah right, 4♥ not sure what I was thinking.

[RichMor]

a ) Dunno. Bidding 4♥ is left-hand Jacoby. It will usually transfer them into 4♠. Does 4♥ suggest a 5-level save at equal vulnerability ? Is this the right hand ? Think I will Pass over 3♠

 

b ) Pass. Like Kevin said.

 

RichM

[rogerclee]

4H over 3S was extremely obvious.

[jjbrr]

4♥ dawg

[OleBerg]

[hv=d=s&v=b&s=sa95hj98432d94ct9]133|100|Scoring: IMP

Pass-(2♠)-X-(3♠)

Pass-(4♠)-X-(Pass)

  ?[/hv]

Two questions:

 

a ) Do you pass over 3♠?

b ) What do you do if you passed and this comes back?

This is my third chance to bid hearts. If I don't do it now, I din't think I'll get another chance.

[Fluffy]

I pass, I would had bid 4♥ previous round.

[quiddity]

Lefty's sequence is strange. Does it mean that he has a 7-card spade suit or a heart void? Does it suggest that they might be more likely than usual to save over 5♥?

[neilkaz]

I think not bidding 4♥ the first time is quite bad, but that bidding 5♥ now is even worse.

[the hog]

I pass, I would had bid 4♥ previous round.

Agree with Fluffy. 4H before was pretty obvious. Also bidding 4H before would mean that I would not have this problem now. Over (4S) and a double from pd, pass now is even more obvious.

[gszeszycki]

pass over 3s

partner is under some pressure after 2s and if

there is defense it is most likely behind p making 4h

much more difficult than it might first seem. If p cannot

act over 3s we are unlikely to have missed 4h.

 

now bid 5h at IMPS*

 

partner is obviously short in spades and our 6 card heart suit will

cut down severly on any defensive tricks partner might be counting

on if we pass. It takes a lot more for partner to X 4s than it did for

the original 2S x. If partner has the heart length we expect making

11 should be easy since partner is undoubtedly doubling with aces

not queens and jacks. No matter at imps going down 1 in 5h a small

price to pay to make certain we dont lose out a vul game.

 

*At MP since we rate to beat 4s we will gather in at least some mp

by passing while bidding 5h rates to be a good contract it risks

being bottom if it goes down.

[dake50]

What was 4S deviation? I assume 3S was a bar bid.

Really fear hearts? 7xS with 0-1xH??

I hate it, but I think he's right. 4H makes.

Try for 4 tricks now. Dreaming to think lose 1xH + 1xminor only.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

#1 most likley no, but I dont think Pass is bad

#2 Pass, this one is easy to answer

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[ceeb]

Post prandial judgment maybe, but pass & 5♥ seems obvious to me. Pass over 3♠ because despite 10 card ♥ fit this is a 9-loser hand, marginally worth a 2♥ response to a double. The urgency to bid 2nd time around is partner may have extras -- to accommodate the worries about wasted ♠A, imagine --,AKxx,AKxx,xxxxx. Admittedly, LHOs strange bidding does give me pause; hate to let him get away with it.

[Little Kid]

For the people who bid 4♥ right away, how often do you expect partner to be able to make another bid over 3♠ if 4♥ can make? I figured 4♥ would probably make a decent % of the time but that in almost all cases partner would be able to double again as he would have to have extras. By passing now he doesn't propel me into slam if he has a good hand, of course I didn't expect the opponents to be interfering any more lol. Am I looking at this the wrong way?

[flytoox]

5H for me.

[Hanoi5]

For the people who bid 4♥ right away, how often do you expect partner to be able to make another bid over 3♠ if 4♥ can make? I figured 4♥ would probably make a decent % of the time but that in almost all cases partner would be able to double again as he would have to have extras. By passing now he doesn't propel me into slam if he has a good hand, of course I didn't expect the opponents to be interfering any more lol. Am I looking at this the wrong way?

You passed as dealer and hold an ugly 6-card suit. Your Ace is in their suit, which might be good for offense (at least before the 4♠). By bidding 4♥ you give precious information to your partner so that he makes a better judgement. Bidding 5♥ now might be a little awkward as partner might just be doubling 'cause their bidding sucks.

[Fluffy]

For the people who bid 4♥ right away, how often do you expect partner to be able to make another bid over 3♠ if 4♥ can make? I figured 4♥ would probably make a decent % of the time but that in almost all cases partner would be able to double again as he would have to have extras. By passing now he doesn't propel me into slam if he has a good hand, of course I didn't expect the opponents to be interfering any more lol. Am I looking at this the wrong way?

As one of the 4♥ bidders, I expect better cards than most for his double, something like x AKxx Kxx Kxxxx is a minimum and that's a 75% game.

 

Its hard to imagine hands for partner, knowing that he has singleton spade, that do not make game at least 50% of the time.

[helene_t]

Having failed to show my hearts before I really have to bid 5♥ now. OK, 4♠ is a retarded bid so it could very well be that we need to defend. These retarded bids come up all the time at the club and on BBO and it is really hard to assess what is going on. Yesterday in a similar auction LHO had an average weak two and RHO just doubleton support, and they went for a phone number. But last month I remember a similar situation where LHO turned out to have an 8-card suit and made her doubled contract with an overtrick.

[Fluffy]

Post prandial judgment maybe, but pass & 5♥ seems obvious to me. Pass over 3♠ because despite 10 card ♥ fit this is a 9-loser hand

how many spades do you expect partner to have? instead of counting your losers try imagining a couple of partner's possible hands and you will see the light ;)

[andy_h]

This is a preemptive auction, partner should know that we are under some pressure. There are lots of average 13-14 counts where partner has a singleton spade and 4♥ would be a good game.

[mikeh]

a  ) Dunno. Bidding 4♥ is left-hand Jacoby. It will usually transfer them into 4♠. Does 4♥ suggest a 5-level save at equal vulnerability ? Is this the right hand ? Think I will Pass over 3♠

 

b  )  Pass. Like Kevin said.

 

RichM

Bidding 4♥ will very rarely, if ever, transfer competent opps into 4♠. Only very bad players tend to bid like these opps bid. So unless one wants to play bad bridge all the time, one should try to bid these problems as if playing competent opps. My memory is imperfect but I don't recalll ever playing good opps who bid 4♠ in these sequences. 3♠ assumed captaincy: for all the weak 2 bidder knows, 4♥ may be exactly what the 3♠ bidder was hoping for, especially if the weak 2 bidder is very short in hearts.

[whereagles]

4♥ before. Not having done so, now it's a matter of who LHO is. Opposite a loonie, pass. Opposite a serious player, bid 5♥.