Kids these days

[blackshoe]

As they further define which classes they are protecting in that same sentence, it seems that whoever wrote to you has reading comprehension issues.

That thought did occur to me, but given the cavalier way the ACBL has treated the language in other cases, I see no point in arguing with them. Heck, write to them yourself. Maybe you'll get a different opinion. Wouldn't surprise me any. B)

[gnasher]

As they further define which classes they are protecting in that same sentence, it seems that whoever wrote to you has reading comprehension issues.

I think there might have been a writing problem too.

 

You can't bar someone because of their "race, creed, religion, political affiliation, sexual orientation, national origin, and physical handicap".

 

Doesn't that mean that the only restriction is on barring someone because they meet conditions on all of these categories? For example, I can't bar someone for being a straight Republican-voting WASP with a gammy leg, but I can bar him simply for being white.

[matmat]

As they further define which classes they are protecting in that same sentence, it seems that whoever wrote to you has reading comprehension issues.

I think there might have been a writing problem too.

 

You can't bar someone because of their "race, creed, religion, political affiliation, sexual orientation, national origin, and physical handicap".

 

Doesn't that mean that the only restriction is on barring someone because they meet conditions on all of these categories? For example, I can't bar someone for being a straight Republican-voting WASP with a gammy leg, but I can bar him simply for being white.

quit it with your logic.

[NickRW]

I dunno what all the fuss is about. I'm in the UK it is true - but the culture here isn't that wildly different to the US - I have 3 late teen/early twenties bridge playing offspring and I've taken them to four different local clubs - including one that is both rather conservative and reckons they're the strongest for miles (probably with some degree of truth on their side) and I haven't come across any nastiness about age or their manners or the way they dress etc. In fact quite the reverse.

 

Nick

[barmar]

Tl;dr:  A club CAN ban someone on the basis of age alone.

I asked Memphis about this. Their reply:

In the paragraph below, the word "class" in bold letters would also include age so a club may not bar a member based on his/her age.

The "paragraph below" is, from the Handbook:

The club manager can handle many behavior problems by discussing them with the offenders, by issuing a warning, or declaring a period of probation. In extreme cases or cases of repeat offenses, the manager can bar an ACBL member from the club game for a stipulated period of time, or permanently. No open club may bar an ACBL member or members as a class, based upon the player’s race, creed, religion, political affiliation, sexual orientation, national origin, and physical handicap or on his proficiency at bridge.

As they further define which classes they are protecting in that same sentence, it seems that whoever wrote to you has reading comprehension issues.

Apparently they're reading it as intending that to be a list of example classes, not a comprehensive list, despite the poor wording.

 

The general point is that you're allowed to kick out specific people for cause, but not bar any general class of people. So you also can't bar redheads, lefties, sci-fi fans, etc.

[Lobowolf]

My experience with usually being the youngest or among the youngest has pretty much always been positive, with respect to other players. In my early 20s, though, I did think it was funny that the Anaheim club had 2 designated "senior discount" days, the effect of which was to charge everyone other than my regular partner and me a dollar less than the regular card fees; then we'd get asked 3 times a day why more young people didn't play bridge. Those being my days of fewer social graces, I do have admit, once or twice I did say, "Gee, I don't know...maybe if we weren't the only ones in the room who had to pay extra to play on Fridays..."

[Fluffy]

I was the youngest player on the city for like 10 years, I didn't have such problems but probably because at first I was playing with my grand-father and not with another crazy junior, and after that everyone knew me anyway.

[JoAnneM]

No one has mentioned the fact that if you limit your game in any way (by barring redheads) it is now an "invitational" game and not eligible for full masterpoints.

[hrothgar]

You can't bar someone because of their "race, creed, religion, political affiliation, sexual orientation, national origin, and physical handicap".

However, you can bar Estonians from using conventions...

[NickRW]

You can't bar someone because of their "race, creed, religion, political affiliation, sexual orientation, national origin, and physical handicap".

However, you can bar Estonians from using conventions...

Ha ;)

[y66]

Club bridge is a circus, just like this forum. I love all of it.

[Vilgan]

Many of the club games near where I live get around all this hubbub by just making the games invitational and disallowing "good" players from playing with each other. Its obviously preferred by most of the membership, as they are by far the largest games around.

[matmat]

Many of the club games near where I live get around all this hubbub by just making the games invitational and disallowing "good" players from playing with each other. Its obviously preferred by most of the membership, as they are by far the largest games around.

sounds delightful.