MFA Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 2NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 So by bidding 2H instead of 2NT you are committing to showing a game forcing single suiter with a heart stopper, instead of showing 18-19 hcp balanced with a heart stopper (what else does cuebid-then-NT show?) Great. I think a cue-then-NT expresses doubt about strain, not a single suiter + a heart stop (with that hand we rebid clubs after our cue). What would 3N over the negative double show? I've already said I'd open 1N. I simply said that "if" I opened 1♣ and partner negative doubled and "if" I rebid 2♥ what I would do. I mean, what would you do? If I agree to bid 2N, will you be happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 (...) Do any of the 2♥ bidders have any thoughts on this? I intend to follow up with 3♥ over just about anything from pard except 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Do any of the 2♥ bidders have any thoughts on this? 2♥ is game-forcing, so I wouldn't pass 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 To answer the original Q, 2N is my poison - but there is no way on earth that I was opening this 1♣ playing 15-17. With one p I play 14-16(17) - I was even entertaining the idea of downgrading for that range - in the end I decided against it - but - hell - this aint worth 18 in a million years. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=sak6hj87dakqcj642]133|100|Scoring: MPYou deal and, in deference to Milton Work, open 1♣. LHP bids 1♥ and partner's negative double comes back to you. What do you bid?[/hv] You made a decision not to treat this 4333 as a 15-17 NT hand. Ok, I think I would have opened 1NT. However, having made that decision you need to follow through. I bid 2H now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 A question to those who bid 2NT here : What is the range of this 2NT for you? (is it still 18-19?)What would you bid with 1435 16hcp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Phil, my point was just that I believe cue-then-NT shows a one-suiter with hearts stopped, not 18-19 balanced with a questionable stopper (and if we had that hand everybody would bid like that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I agree with cherdano. My double dummy simulation suggested that this hand is a bit worse than the average balanced 17-count that does not have a 5-card suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 A question to those who bid 2NT here : What is the range of this 2NT for you? (is it still 18-19?)What would you bid with 1435 16hcp? yes.i would normally pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkharty Posted June 9, 2010 Report Share Posted June 9, 2010 With one p I play 14-16(17) - I was even entertaining the idea of downgrading for that range My double dummy simulation suggested that this hand is a bit worse than the average balanced 17-count that does not have a 5-card suit. K&R evaluator bears this out--16.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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