gnasher Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 (edited) Are you sure that the 3♠ bid was defined that tightly in the pre-game discussions? Are you sure that if you asked Zia whether a one-suited minor hand without a stopper might be 3♠ here, trying to get to 3N, he would say "No way!"?(And that would make neither David Burn nor Zia a gibbering idiot, nor would it tell us they are not world class.) I'm sure that it wasn't discussed at all. A system discussion in a London rubber bridge club consists of agreeing a notrump range, a major-suit length and a defence to preempts. * Apart fom that, everyone plays the same "natural" system. That includes some well established collective understandings about what certain "natural" bids mean. I think David's assertion is that this sequence falls into that category. And my assertion is that if he says it does he's probably right. FWIW, David's description is consistent with how it was played last time I played rubber bridge. That was, however, more than a decade ago, in a different club, and for rather smaller stakes. * In the cheap seats they may discuss the vital questions of whether a 2NT overcall is Unusual, and whether "you like your twos kept open". Edited June 10, 2010 by gnasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 I'm sure that it wasn't discussed at all. A system discussion in a London rubber bridge club consists of agreeing a notrump range, a major-suit length and a defence to preempts. * Apart fom that, everyone plays the same "natural" system. That includes some well established collective understandings about what certain "natural" bids mean. I think David's assertion is that this sequence falls into that category. And my assertion is that if he says it does he's probably right. FWIW, David's description is consistent with how it was played last time I played rubber bridge. That was, however, more than a decade ago, in a different club, and for rather smaller stakes. * In the cheap seats they may discuss the vital questions of whether a 2NT overcall is Unusual, and whether "you like your twos kept open". NT range, major length, and if it's 5cM whether 1D is 3 or 4. i've never been asked to play anything over pre-empts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 NT range, major length, and if it's 5cM whether 1D is 3 or 4. i've never been asked to play anything over pre-empts They let you play 2-card club openings? I think allowing foreign nonsense like that into the game will completely ruin it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 You open 1NT*-(2♠)-3♠..... *15-17 Just curious, what should 4♠ (not 3) mean here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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