bidding opposite simple overcall followed by jump

[lmilne]

T x x x

T x

T x

A K J 8 x

 

All vul, LHO deals at IMPs, decent international opps:

 

(1♣)-1♦-(1♥)-pass;

(1♠)-3♦-(3♠)-?

 

What sort of hand do you think partner should have? What now?

Also, if you would have bid the first time, whats your reasoning there.

[helene_t]

minimal opening strength and 7 diamonds.

 

I pass.

[pooltuna]

T x x x

T x

T x

A K J 8 x

 

All vul, LHO deals at IMPs, decent international opps:

 

(1♣)-1♦-(1♥)-pass;

(1♠)-3♦-(3♠)-?

 

What sort of hand do you think partner should have?  What now?

Also, if you would have bid the first time, whats your reasoning there.

Partner has [hv=s=sxhaxxdakqxxxxcqx]133|100|[/hv]

:) so naturally I bid 6♦ :)

[mohitz]

Related topic: http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=33281

[OleBerg]

4♣, a fit-non-jump if I ever saw one.

[peachy]

Overcaller has great hand, just short of Dbl first and then bid diamonds. Probably shapely. I bid 5D now and I would also have passed over 1H.

[dake50]

Partner jumped because he liked his hand given this auction.

I like my CAK with fit. 4C - I cannot be this high without D-support.

[the hog]

4C of course. There is no way in the world that I will pass this.

[jdonn]

4♣ does seem automatic.

[Siegmund]

I agree that 4C is a FNJ; I hope you're doing it because a club may be your best shot at beating 4S, not because you have an interest in 5D.

 

Given the auction so far, I expect partner to have a hand a tiny bit too good for a 3D preempt. His jump was definitely shape not strength IMO.

[rogerclee]

I agree that 4C is a FNJ; I hope you're doing it because a club may be your best shot at beating 4S, not because you have an interest in 5D.

lol

[hanp]

I would have doubled 1H.

[rbforster]

Anyone for 1N the first time?

[hanp]

1NT?? No.

[Fluffy]

I would have doubled 1H.

finally someone who posts my thoughts :), was I ordering a sandwich the round before?

[Phil]

I would have doubled 1H.

Really? I don't think our spades are nearly good enough.

 

Agree with 4♣, although I have no idea what it means. I've never made a fit bid in the opponents suit before.

[hanp]

I'm not going to wait until I have a strong 4-card suit before I show my values. We have a pretty good hand with possibilities to play in spades, clubs and diamonds. With 5 spades I could bid 1S so I don't think I'm overstating my spades much.

 

Maybe you say that we will never play clubs but I disagree. I can easily see the auction going

 

1C - 1D - 1H - Dbl

2H - Dbl

 

for example, and then I have an easy 3C bid. Of course partner is unlikely to double 2H if we don't show values now.

 

I also hate to think of clubs as "their suit" after they have only opened 1C and bid and raised spades.

[whereagles]

expect pd to have something like

 

x

Axx

AKxxxxx

xx

 

or thereabouts, maybe even stronger than this. I'll bid 5♦ now because pard can easily one more useful card.

 

I'd try the 4♣ FNJ if I were 100% sure pard would take it as so.

[Phil]

I'm not going to wait until I have a strong 4-card suit before I show my values. We have a pretty good hand with possibilities to play in spades, clubs and diamonds. With 5 spades I could bid 1S so I don't think I'm overstating my spades much.

 

Maybe you say that we will never play clubs but I disagree. I can easily see the auction going

 

1C - 1D - 1H - Dbl

2H - Dbl

 

for example, and then I have an easy 3C bid. Of course partner is unlikely to double 2H if we don't show values now.

 

I also hate to think of clubs as "their suit" after they have only opened 1C and bid and raised spades.

I assumed you played x as snapdragon, which this hand does not fit. Instead it appears you play the double as values, which isn't my style.

 

I have plenty of chances to play in clubs if I pass over 1H and LHO raises hearts. I will reopen with a double and if pard has club tolerance without spades, I will hear 2N and if pard has clubs, he will bid 3C, which cannot be a cuebid.

 

If LHO rebids 1N, I think I can double or bid 2C without overstating my hand.

 

If your partner cooperates with a double after your double, that's fine, but your partner cannot actually bid clubs naturally after this amorphous double and has to make another x or bid 2N (which is what?).

 

I also never said 'we can't play clubs'. All I said was 'I've never made a fitbid in their suit'.