twcho Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sk95hajtdkqj6ca98]133|100|Scoring: XIMP[/hv] Your RHO, the dealer, open 4♥. What bid will you make with this collection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Kuijt Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Quoting Ira Rubin here; Not only do I need a mirror, but I need one behind the opponents as well. Double dummy, and with double dummy agreements with my partner, I would double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I would double, I think I just have too much, and aside from the ♥JT, the rest of the hand is not so defensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I would double. Partner may be able to pass and if he pulls to a long suit he needs just a few values to have enough for game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I would double since partner rates to make game if he bids anything, and we are very likely to beat 4♥X if he passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 double. partner will leave this in with a weak hand and no long suit, and that suits us fine. If he pulls, he has playing strength, even if merely in the form of a 5 card spade suit and a few hcp, and we may do well then. Passing is out....there is very little chance partner can balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I'd pass, which is consistent with my understanding of the term "takeout double". Even if partner has some miracle like QJxxx x xxx Kxxx, we haven't made 4♠ yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twcho Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Before deciding whether to double or pass, let's get an survey of what action partner will take with the following hands if you double:1. Qxxx xx xxx Qxxx2. Qxxx x xxx Qxxxx3. Qxxxx x xxx Qxxx4. Qxxxx x xxx Kxxx and so on.... I'm not sure what other will pick. I will bid 4S with all the above hands and as gnasher has shown a perfect example of very good hand by west, game is still far from certain. I am guessing that these types of hand happens more than half of the time (Can someone use some sort of dealing programme to assist the analysis?) But instead if you pass, you are certain to collect a plus score. And if partner happens to be able to balance (what is your minimum requirement for balancing here?), you will be more than happy to pass with your good ♥ holding and flattish hand. I am a believer in passing with this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I'd pass, I play takeout doubles here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I am surprised how mayn people play power doubles here. :(I play take out doubles, so the choice is easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I play t/o doubles and I x here. Pass and you are robbed blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I play t/o doubles and I x here. Pass and you are robbed blind. Amen! I can't believe how many think they need to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I X here..in agreement with The Hog and the fish and some others..I think I have too much to pass and don't want to be robbed blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I'd pass, which is consistent with my understanding of the term "takeout double". Even if partner has some miracle like QJxxx x xxx Kxxx, we haven't made 4♠ yet. We may differ a little on the definition of "takeout double", but we differ a lot on the definition of "miracle". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 pass. Pard uses to pull my take out dbls and I'm not sure I want that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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