Simplicity Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 [hv=d=e&v=n&n=sxxhktxxdkqxxcxxx&w=saqtxxxhjxxdxckxx&e=skjxxhaxxxdxxxcqx&s=sxhqxdajtxxcajtxx]399|300|Scoring: XIMPP-(1♦)-2♠-(4♦)4♠-(5♦)-P-(P)5♠-AP[/hv] You are EW on this one, NS play weak NT and 4 card suits. 2♠ was ostensibly weak but can be wide ranging in this position. 4♦ was invitational. Was East mad to save? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Yes, barking mad. A concequence of playing wide-range prempts is that you can't save as often as you'd like to. Mind you, I wouldn't want to save on this, even opposite the most disciplined weak jump. Suppose that partner has AQxxxx xxx x xxx. 5♠ is going to cost 500, and they may have been about to misguess clubs and go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 4♦ lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Why is it when the opponents bid a vulnerable game and we preempt, we automatically assume it makes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Phil? what's with the apostasy? :rolleyes: I think 5♠ is bad if you are 100% sure partner has 6 spades and incredibly bad if partner preempts anything like I do in this position (passed partner AND favourable!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Why is it when the opponents bid a vulnerable game and we preempt, we automatically assume it makes? Trust your vulnerable opponents :rolleyes: OK that doesn't really apply here, sorry. I just couldn't let it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9509/peewee1.jpg Phil? what's with the apostasy? :rolleyes: http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9466/peewee.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 I don't think Phil was renouncing his religion...merely questioning it :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Sorry - too late for me to renounce my beliefs. (I do find my danging modifier kind of interesting however) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Phil? what's with the apostasy? :D I think 5♠ is bad if you are 100% sure partner has 6 spades and incredibly bad if partner preempts anything like I do in this position (passed partner AND favourable!). Would you have bid 2S with West hand? ...I would have bid 3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 [hv=d=e&v=n&n=sxxhktxxdkqxxcxxx&w=saqtxxxhjxxdxckxx&e=skjxxhaxxxdxxxcqx&s=sxhqxdajtxxcajtxx]399|300|Scoring: XIMPP-(1♦)-2♠-(4♦)4♠-(5♦)-P-(P)5♠-AP[/hv] You are EW on this one, NS play weak NT and 4 card suits. 2♠ was ostensibly weak but can be wide ranging in this position. 4♦ was invitational. Was East mad to save? If East didn't know the opponents were maniacs no blame just bad luck. If East knew they could bid like this then I would choose East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Quite mad. If he really wanted to bid 5♠ (not my choice, I am closer to 3♠), he should have done it immidiately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Phil? what's with the apostasy? :D I think 5♠ is bad if you are 100% sure partner has 6 spades and incredibly bad if partner preempts anything like I do in this position (passed partner AND favourable!). Would you have bid 2S with West hand? ...I would have bid 3S. I think 1♠ 2♠ and 3♠ are all OK to be honest and at the table I'd bid 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Would you have bid 2S with West hand? ...I would have bid 3S. Hence, Gnasher's comment about wide range preempts is extremely relevent. I would have bid 1S, and would have opened 1S if righty had passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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