Am I too old-fashioned?

[jdeegan]

:P Playing MP's with a reliable, but pick-up partner. You hold:

[hv=d=s&v=n&s=sahj985dqj7cakq84]133|100|Scoring: MP

1♣-P-1♠-P

???[/hv]

Your call?

[mike777]

2c

 

If I am banned from opening a very offshape 1nt..

[blackshoe]

If I thought I should pretend this is a balanced hand, I'd rebid 2NT rather than open 1NT.

 

I don't like a reverse with that bad a suit. I'd rebid 2♣, and if partner passes we're probably all right. If he bids 2♠, I'll try 2NT. If he bids 2♥, I'll raise. If he bids diamonds, I'll bid hearts.

 

Of course, given my result in last Friday's club game, I'm probably all wet. :P

[aguahombre]

If I hadn't decided to open 1NT, would do the 2♥ thing now. 17 is within our reverse range but not within our 2C rebid range. Size and shape is old fashioned, but so what?

 

I have bid worse heart suits, and no --it doesn't bother me that partner is unlikely to have a heart fit.

[mike777]

For me these 14-16 pointers are killers if I cannot open 1nt...so I open 1nt offshape very often......

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second choice Al roth/old fashion style....but I understand the forum hates this....

[jdonn]

2♥, this is the system bid so why are we trying to outsmart ourselves? I understand wanting to open 1NT or rebid 2NT (I prefer opening 1NT), but rebidding 2♣ is reeeeeeeallly bad. Aside from just a 5 card suit, we have 17 you know...

[peachy]

There is a flaw in all rebids, be it 2C, 2H, 2NT. I choose 2H as the least flawed. The problem with 2H is that the suit is so bad.

[shevek]

2NT, if considered a shade too strong to open 1NT.

[655321]

Obvious 2♥ for me.

[the hog]

2H and as others have posted above, I don't see a problem with the reverse.

[mike777]

i hate 2h...geez

 

see my pref.

 

 

14-16 offshape nt//////

 

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second choice...roth.....2c.....one club is alot :P

[CSGibson]

As to the post title - If you have to ask, then the answer is probably yes.

[gordontd]

The strangest vote of all is for 2♦: they are happy to reverse, but not in their second suit!

[jdonn]

14-16? Are we downgrading or miscounting?

[whereagles]

2♥ is easy. I think other bids are masterminding :)

[jdeegan]

:) Really glad to see the 2/3 vote for 2♥. I thought, perhaps, I had recently lapsed over into a heretofore unexpected parallel universe where things looked the same but were actually just slightly altered. The joke on this hand happened on the next round where my actual partner in an indy bid 2NT with a balanced 11 HCP. Looking at a possible combined HCP count of 23-24 and no known fit, I naturally passed. Now, I don't mind bad partners, else I wouldn't play in indies, but I wasn't prepared for this player's outrage at my final bid.

[Fluffy]

2NT after a reverse is forcing for many people, althou not necesarilly strong.

[Cascade]

For me these 14-16 pointers are killers

luckily we have 17

[hanp]

Obvious 2H.

[kfay]

Look, if you don't want to bid 2♥ based on suit quality, bid 3♣!! Your hand is way better than anyone could expect for a 2♣ rebid! Who can possibly deny that?

 

Now consider whether you would rather show 4+♥&5+♣ or deny that shape and I think we can start to agree that 2♥ is mandatory.

 

Of course some will disagree.

[pooltuna]

2♥ is easy. I think other bids are masterminding :wacko:

Hey!!! This is the BBO Forum. :o That being said IMO, all of us probably mastermind a little bit because we are generally pretty good at analysing hands and it is something we have to guard against.

[gwnn]

I don't understand what old-fashioned has to do with anything. I think the 'golden principle' of only bidding a suit twice if you have at least 6 cards was formulated sometimes shortly after World War II.

 

edit: I looked it up and it was Alan Truscott who formulated it and its name is The Golden Rule in Bridge. I can't find any dates but I would assume it is not a revolutionary idea of postmodernist callous bridge.

[jjbrr]

As to the post title - If you have to ask, then the answer is probably yes.

I came here to post this.

[Fluffy]

I don't understand what old-fashioned has to do with anything. I think the 'golden principle' of only bidding a suit twice if you have at least 6 cards was formulated sometimes shortly after World War II.

 

edit: I looked it up and it was Alan Truscott who formulated it and its name is The Golden Rule in Bridge. I can't find any dates but I would assume it is not a revolutionary idea of postmodernist callous bridge.

wtf are you talking about? if you have 5 card suit you must name it twice to show it is not 4 carder.

 

 

*goes and quickly hides to dodge the well aimed proyectiles shot at him*

[H_KARLUK]

2H, wtp