uday Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 We're toying with a limited run of non-bridge, non-bbo advertisement ads. How do you feel about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Seems to be a no-brainer.. when I watch football on TV (for free), I have to "suffer" through the commercials. A banner add for amazon or aol or microsoft, or beck's beer, wouldn't bother me at all.. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Hi Uday, I don't have a problem with BBO serving whatever they like in the way of ads in the lobby, regardless of the type of content. In a simailr fashion, I would have problems with any system designed to serve adds while playing hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhar Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Hi Uday, I don't have a problem with BBO serving whatever they like in the way of ads in the lobby, regardless of the type of content. In a simailr fashion, I would have problems with any system designed to serve adds while playing hands. You would have a problem making your contract on the lead of the King of Beers? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Yippie! "This slam was brought to you by BudWeiser the Slam Beer...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Hi Uday, I don't have a problem with BBO serving whatever they like in the way of ads in the lobby, regardless of the type of content. In a simailr fashion, I would have problems with any system designed to serve adds while playing hands. Name of soemthing on the back of the cards would be ok by me (imagine "Coke can" designed card backs insead of "bridge base"). So the blanket nothing in the game room is wrong, but it will have to be very passive. The banner ads in the lobby and like is fine. Maybe name the rooms after sponseors.. "the microsoft main game room" the "pepsi team game lobby", the "nextel chat rooms"... Those would be fine, and maybe when first enter the room you get a manditory little ad of some type.. but then you are in and not bugged again... Even see if one of these room sponsors would sponsor a large tournment (many talbe one day event, or over time with result tracking) with some kind of corporate prize.. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Banner ads good! Popup ads bad! And no adds for beer or girlie sites please. My keyboard doesn't work right when I drool on it. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhar Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 And, of course, the tournaments could be named by sponsors too. Everybody would want to sponsor Mirjam's tourneys, every glamoured member would receive message - Congratulations - uday and Inquiry won the Doritos Glamoured! ;) The ace of spades could have a sponsor too. You could even go one step further and randomly assign sponsors to each table in the Main Bridge Club, instead of naming it after the table opener. "Please - need 2 nice opponents at table Oscar Mayer!" You guys have programmed an awesome site and deserve to make at least as much as your average programmer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I am in favour in principle, but I do think that it depends to some degree on how the ads appear, ie how intrusive they are etc. The more intrusive, the greater the revenue per ad, but the greater the irritation that they cause. If I am in the middle of a winkle squeeze and a popup suddenly obscures the hand in order to suggest the benefits of a time-share appartment in Tenerife, then I might get a bit pissed off, even if I can click on Cancel to get back to the hand. Of course you would never consider going to that extreme, but it takes an extreme to emphasise a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambi1 Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 And we have to make sure the ads don't give away anyting. If you are in the middle of a winkle squeeze, and an ad appears for Fresh Squeezed Orange Juice from Florida, it could be a hint to your opps! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanrover Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Good idea. You want to ask online Poker sites to advertise. I would suggest that BBO contains a high % of potential users, and they would be willing to pay lots of money. Also it mind bring some much needed color to BBO, whose scheme is a tad dull. e.g. the current "Bridge Base" cards are rather unsightly. I'd much rather see a coke can on the back of it. Actually, best would be to have advertisements from www.playboy.com on the back, though this would likely be too distracting from the bridge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ng:) Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Ok, if BBO remains free. Gabor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 I think if it helps your cash flow, go for it, I used yahoo for years and the only painful add was the one that you had to click to pass into the site, the rest you learn to ignore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenisO Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 No Problem here - Hope you can get big payers :) - I'm sure extra cash will benefit us all. Deniso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearmum Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Ok, if BBO remains free. Gaborand hopefully IF you get money from ads SOME of the tourneys which USED to be free will revert to free again --- since PAY tourneys have come in I find it almost impossible (due to the time zone I am in I admit) to find a FREE tourney to play in at a time I am able to be online :) BUT I would HATE popup[ads -- or those you have to click on to get rid of - banner ads are OK I can ignore THEM :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vang Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Hi Uday, Maybe name the rooms after sponseors.. "the microsoft main game room" disguisting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRG Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 I understand I'm part of a minority. I also understand that BBI needs to make some money from BBO. I appreciate BBO being a free site. Having said that, I'm one of those people who really, really, hates advertisements. Here are a couple of examples (you can draw your own inferences as to their relevance to a money-making model): 1) I used to use the Eudora Pro e-mail program (at first on a Mac and then on a PC) when one had to buy it. Then they started distributing it free (paid for by displaying ads). You could still pay for it, in which case the ads were suppressed. YES, I continued to pay for it. [Hate those ads]. 2) Similar - I paid for the Opera web browser. 3) I watch much less television than appears to be the average (this is a subjective assessment, I could be wrong). It's not just the quality of the programming (at the risk of offending some people, I really cannot understand why people watch inane game shows) that stops me -- there are some programs I have really enjoyed. I simply cannot stand being brainwashed by the constant stream of advertisements. [For what it is worth, I probably watch about an hour a week of television. It would be less, but there are a couple of reasonably enjoyable shows that I watch with my wife.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 I understand I'm part of a minority. Hii. I think the current ads are fine. The ACBL tournent banner in the play bridge lobby is surely not a problem. If the back of the playing cards had a company logo or name (coke can design, or nike swoosh), that would be harly a problem. If The main lobby became named.. The MSN main lobby, that would hardly cause a problem. On could imagine helpful ads.. say a find a partner room, where people pay a dime a week, or a quater a month or a dollar one time.. something like that to list themeelves as needign a partner and write waht they play. Sure we have a find a partner here, but it is seldom used. That is a type of ad... What aobut a find a team game room. For people who can arrange t heir own game, fine, no need for the charge or room For others, a room where you go go and find a listiing of online singles, partnershps, and etire teamss, looking to set up a teamgame. Charge the people who go on the list some nominal fee (a dime maybe). Adds when you first log in... instead of seeing the Bridgebase graphic when you click the BridgeView program, you see something that advertises some product, and w hile the program loads, the add stays visiuble (just as the bridgebase logo does now_. I think we can all object to porn ads,viargra ads, popup ads (popup blockers take care of theat anyway), Thisse other ideas are hardly intrusive. BTW, I haven't watched ANY TV in last 3 weeks. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 Good idea, about time you guys get some money for all the work you do. Mike :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanrover Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 I understand I'm part of a minority. I also understand that BBI needs to make some money from BBO. I appreciate BBO being a free site. Having said that, I'm one of those people who really, really, hates advertisements. Here are a couple of examples (you can draw your own inferences as to their relevance to a money-making model): 1) I used to use the Eudora Pro e-mail program (at first on a Mac and then on a PC) when one had to buy it. Then they started distributing it free (paid for by displaying ads). You could still pay for it, in which case the ads were suppressed. YES, I continued to pay for it. [Hate those ads]. 2) Similar - I paid for the Opera web browser. 3) I watch much less television than appears to be the average (this is a subjective assessment, I could be wrong). It's not just the quality of the programming (at the risk of offending some people, I really cannot understand why people watch inane game shows) that stops me -- there are some programs I have really enjoyed. I simply cannot stand being brainwashed by the constant stream of advertisements. [For what it is worth, I probably watch about an hour a week of television. It would be less, but there are a couple of reasonably enjoyable shows that I watch with my wife.] Hopefully the bridge ads will be very intrusive. I also don't think many people will be as strongly anti-adverts as you. Two questions i) Would you likely use BBO less/ leave BBO?ii) If we offered the alternative of an ad-free BBO for x$ per annum would you take this up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rona_ Posted August 1, 2004 Report Share Posted August 1, 2004 [ Two questions i) Would you likely use BBO less/ leave BBO?ii) If we offered the alternative of an ad-free BBO for x$ per annum would you take this up? Just one question. Who is We? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 I don't care much about bridge or non-bridge adds, as long as I'm not bothered with them! This means: NO POPUPS, NO PERSONAL MESSAGES!!! Banner ok with me, put a hot girl in bikini on it and we'll all love it B) But from the moment I need to click something to get the advertisement away, I'm against it! As to Deanrover's questions:i) I'm already annoyed with all the personal messages I get when I haven't been online for 2 days. Give me some extra popups or messages with adds I'm not interested in and I throw my XP through the windows B) You know what I mean... Would I use BBO less? Perhaps. Would I leave BBO? Not in the near future, but if the adds are sprayed to us, then I'd go for sure!ii) Paying for an ad-free BBO? No way... I hate to pay for stuff on computers, since you can get most things for free :) I think I'd try to manage a way to get rid of the adds. As I told in i), when it would become too annoying, I might leave, but I won't pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Ben, I have to object to your attitude about adverts for viagra, some of us need this service and I am sure that if fred and co can benifit from this, I dont see a problem with it, so please, consider us unfortunate ones, I would also appriciate if you just kept this between us, I dont want everyone to know I am important :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanrover Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 BBO users will react to any attempts to advertise viagra with a stiff response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Ben, I have to object to your attitude about adverts for viagra, some of us need this service and I am sure that if fred and co can benifit from this, I dont see a problem with it, so please, consider us unfortunate ones, I would also appriciate if you just kept this between us, I dont want everyone to know I am important ;) If you need viagra, just open you email in box. No doubt you will have 20 ads for it a week. :huh: Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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