Worth an invite?

[kayin801]

[hv=d=n&v=n&s=s3hak10862d85cj872]133|100|Scoring: IMP

Opps silent:

1♣-1♥

1♠-?[/hv]

 

You haven't agreed XYZ or anything and haven't discussed whether 1♠ is unbalanced or not.

 

Follow-up question, related but not specific to this hand: If the auction goes 1C-1H-1S-3H-3NT-?, what kind of hand does 4C by responder show here?

[mike777]

Assuming zero discussion...ya...I bid 3h invite...

 

I aint going to miss no game....

 

If very wrong we can discuss now...:)

 

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hidden.......4c would be clubs...slam try...but why??

[aguahombre]

I guess an invite could work out if partner has QX of hearts and a nice club suit but wouldn't move over two hearts. Certainly some will do that. Seems like it needs about the perfect AXXX QX XXX KQXX, or somesuch, which might not accept anyway, though.

 

to the hidden:

something I hate

 

[spotlight7]

Hi:

 

It is very wrong to not play xyz.

 

Bridge without prior agreements is party bridge.

 

Regards,

Robert

[Jlall]

Hi:

 

It is very wrong to not play xyz.

lol

[bluecalm]

In my opinion it's borderline but not worth an invite. I don't have time for any simuls now so it's purely based on intuition.

[Fluffy]

if partner has singleton hearts this will be ugly, but our club lenght suggests he is balanced, all in all it is really borderline and I'd try 3♥.

 

to the hidden: it is natural and I like it.

[pooltuna]

[hv=d=n&v=n&s=s3hak10862d85cj872]133|100|Scoring: IMP

Opps silent:

1♣-1♥

1♠-?[/hv]

 

You haven't agreed XYZ or anything and haven't discussed whether 1♠ is unbalanced or not.

 

Follow-up question, related but not specific to this hand: If the auction goes 1C-1H-1S-3H-3NT-?, what kind of hand does 4C by responder show here?

yes Meckwell the hand

[bluecalm]

I take back what I wrote about it being close. After reconsidering I think 3♥ is a mistake. It won't be safe contract often enough because we often face minimum with stiff ♥ and even opposite minimum with ♥xx it's not big favorite to make.

[jdonn]

Not close, worth an invite.

[gszeszycki]

Dealer: North

Vul: None

Scoring: IMP

♠ 3

♥ AK10862

♦ 85

♣ J872

Opps silent:

1♣-1♥

1♠-?

 

This hand is absolutely worth an invite but the problem lies in the fact that it is worth an invite in both hearts AND clubs (imagine Axxx void xxx AQxxxx) I play my FSF as forcing for one round same as NMF so i will start my exploration with

2d (even those that use FSF as game forcing can feel relatively safe with this because you can safely invite as high as 4c). If you play the 1s rebid by opener promises an unbalanced hand being able to invite in CLUBS is VERY important since

you hand lacks the HCP (opposite a minimum opener) to make 3N but has the distribution to make 5c feasible.

[kenrexford]

Another example of why I now almost insist on playing intermediate jump shifts with people.

 

1♣-P-2♥

[hanp]

Agree with T-Rex.

[mikeh]

It's worth an invite because of the fit for clubs and the 108 of hearts...even opposite a stiff heart, the suit will often play for only 1 losers....some of the time his stiff will be the Q or the J and the 9 helps as well...plus even opposite x, we are ok on all 3-3's and 20% of the 4-2's. Plus, he won't raise to game on a stiff without useful side cards.