Flame Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I was playing Tartan where 2H=heart +minor2S=spade+another suit2NT=minorThis mean with both major we open 2spReading some CCs of world class players i saw they open 2h with the majors (all the rest is the same.I wonder which way do you think is better.I think 2h with the majors is better because it has the same value of premption (they dont have spades so 2h prempt them just as 2sp would have) and 2h give us the apportunity to play at the 2 level in heart.sp-2nt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Those are not Tartan Twos Flame, never have been and never will be - anywhere, including NZ. Look at Chris Ryall's web site. Ben has posted links in the past. Tartan Two bids are as follows: 2H = Acol 2 in hearts, or weak 5/5-hearts/minor, or 20-22 NT (relay is 2) 2S = Acol 2 in spades, or weak 5/5-spades/another, (relay is 2NT) Responses Over a next denomination relay - rebid naturally. 2NT is the big NT hand a new suit is 5/5 and weak Repeating your suit is the Acol Two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiBridge Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 In New Zealand we call them weak Tartans :( We play 2H = H + another - 2S is pass or correct, 2NT strong inquiry2S = S + minor - 3C is pass or correct, 2NT strong inquiry Both show 5/5 or better, less than opening strength. We put the Acol strong 2's in with the multi - 2D = either weak 2H/S, or any 8 playing trick hand, or 20-22 with a 5 card suit (5332) This still leaves 2C for the absolute game force. 2NT = 21-22 with No 5 card suit We still call it Acol. And it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I'm not excited about such 2♠ (or 2♥ with a minor or ♠) openings. When opening weak 2-suiters, imo it's best (when no brown sticker stuff is allowed) to show 1 suit for sure, and 1 out of TWO suits, so there's 1 suit opener never has. This makes it easier for responder to run or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Tartan Two bids are as follows:2H = Acol 2 in hearts, or weak 5/5-hearts/minor, or 20-22 NT (relay is 2) 2S = Acol 2 in spades, or weak 5/5-spades/another, (relay is 2NT) This system have one major problem over mine, you cant pass the 2M opening, i wouldnt play it.anyway noone answer which one is better 2h/2s with both majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I'd suggest not to play 2♥ as ♥+minor, cause that doesn't help much to keep opps from bidding their ♠ contracts. If you want Major 2-suiters, play 2♥ 44+M, and keep 2♠ with ♠+minor. This way, after 2♥, your p can signoff in ♠ or pass, he can invite, raise preemptive, bid game, investigate for whatever he wants,... If you really want to bid with ♥s, open 3♥, then they don't have a cuebid under 3NT as well :P And with ♠+minor, he'll also know what to do. 44+M frequency is twice as high as a 54+♥-m, so 2♥ 44+M is a great preemptive weapon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Plus, 2H as 44 majors puts LHO under more pressure to bid, especially with short hearts, as he knows responder may pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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