any action here ?

[bluecalm]

Vul vs not. E deals.

 

[hv=d=e&v=n&s=sat52hk6dj982c943]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

1♣ - Pass - 1♠ - dbl

2♠ - ?

 

1♣ may be 2;

 

Partner is very good player aware of vulnerability.

[Hanoi5]

Pass. 3♦ could be awkward.

[aguahombre]

I choose 3D. The double is takeout, I have support for one of the two suits suggested. The fact that it might be a short club is not relevent. In addition to being aware of the vulnerability, I assume he is aware he showed the red suits.

[mohitz]

I will bid 3♦. We have a very nice hand in the context of the bidding. ATxx opposite shortness. Kx in partner's second suit means we can almost always set up the heart suit with at most 1 ruff.

 

xxx in clubs is not exactly good for us but I am bidding this one.

[andy_h]

3D and this is a wtp. The vulnerability is not a factor of consideration for me.

[lmilne]

agree with ahung, i like our hand!

[jdonn]

3♦ wtp? I think I have good chances to make.

[jjbrr]

action here

[gnasher]

Do people play partner's double as a takeout double of clubs and spades, or as a takeout double of spades? For example, is it consistent with a 1435 13-count?

[gnasher]

I think this hand demonstrates one of the disadvantages of support doubles. If we didn't know that partner had a singleton spade, it would be much less attractive to bid.

[lmilne]

Do people play partner's double as a takeout double of clubs and spades, or as a takeout double of spades? For example, is it consistent with a 1435 13-count?

In this auction, I think partner can be 1(435), with a higher likelihood of 1435 than 1345. If 1♣ showed 4+, then I would think partner would probably pass with 5♣, so X is more like 2443 or 1444 or something.

[Fluffy]

Do people play partner's double as a takeout double of clubs and spades, or as a takeout double of spades? For example, is it consistent with a 1435 13-count?

I play take out of the black suits, 1435 is possible with enough strenght to compensate the 15 count would be a close decision.

[jdonn]

I think this hand demonstrates one of the disadvantages of support doubles. If we didn't know that partner had a singleton spade, it would be much less attractive to bid.

If we didn't know partner had a singleton spade, we would assume he does because that's what he usually has. Also it's obviously an advantage to the opponents in deciding whether or not to compete farther if we bid 3♦.

[hanp]

Agree with Josh. If the opponents were not playing support doubles we would still bid 3D. It could be worse for us (if the opponents don't have a fit it could be wrong to compete) or it could be better (because the opponents have less information).

[aguahombre]

Best of both worlds in this situation --if they do play support doubles:

 

The support redouble would allow 2D.

The direct 2S raise nails partner's singleton or void in spades.

 

Life is good. If they don't play support redoubles, they are in the same dark as we are after 3D, and responder might bid 3S with either 4 or 5 of them when 3D would have been ugly.

[Winstonm]

I really cannot find a good reason not to bid 3D. Partner has stuck out his vulnerable neck for us in order for us to compete - I will be happy to let them play 3S, but not 2S - so I am going to force the decision to the 3 level. I cannot imagine there being less than an 8-card diamond fit.

[Phil]

3♦. Must we pass and let pard bid our hand for us?

 

The passers get to listen to partner's rant about how we missed our vulnerable game when he doubled on x Axx AKxxx Qxxx.

[aguahombre]

Waiting for an edit of the example, Phil.

[Double !]

Enlighten me, please.

 

Why would a Double of opps 2S rebid not be Responsive? I have cards, likely not 4 hearts (I would bid them), too much to pass with, and support/ tolerance for either minor.

3D just seems rather unilateral to me.

 

DHL

[aguahombre]

maybe if 3 diamonds and 4 clubs..then responsive double or 2NT for scramble in minor. Being a simple soul, I assume doubler has the two unbid suits, and I have 4 in one of them.

[the hog]

Pass. 3♦ could be awkward.

3D. What will be awkward is explaining to partner why I passed an obvious 3D bid.