And you?

[nige1]

Everything looks reasonable to me.

Agree with WinstonM. Some players used to say "Content"instead of "Pass" or "Nobid" :)

[whereagles]

What is with passing then bidding 3♦ or 4♦? Even if playing 2NT as lebensohl, the first one shows both kings less than this, the second one shows an ace less than this. You can't cater your system to passing game forcing hands over the overcall!

Ask Robson. That's where I got the idea :) They have an example hand of pass + good 3x with 11 hcp. I can give you the reference later, if you want.

[whereagles]

so what do you do Nuno if it goes

 

1♣-2♥-p-3♥

p-p-?

Now 4♦. Unless opps are bluffing, pard will have a min 4134 or 3136 and 4♦ is safe. Actually, I should probably bid 5 of those :)

[ggwhiz]

What is with passing then bidding 3♦ or 4♦? Even if playing 2NT as lebensohl, the first one shows both kings less than this

 

I disagree. 3♦ does show this but I don't play lebensohl here. Since you are max. how about a 3♥ cue after pard re-opens with a double?

 

That gets you to 3nt if it's right or a 4♦ bid to follow should be reasonably safe and won't hang pard if they re-opened with a stiff ♥ and a piece of cheese, or in my case, G's.

 

The above is after 2♥ - pass - pass - dbl but if it does go 3♥ back to me, I'll hit it and let pard decide.

[Winstonm]

I would open 1C with winstonm hand and force to game with this and God only knows where we would stop. I hope they don't double us. Anyway that is that hand, at least this hand I got a game swing against winstonm. When opps don't pass all the time my bidding is worse, obviously.

I agree with you 100%. We pick our poison and live with the results. Good stuff.

 

Edit: Also note I did not consider negative double - I only wondered if those who open lightish carry through and take the more aggressive stance by bidding 3D.

[aguahombre]

someone else, on another thread, said that passing a mere 1S overcall had a range of zero to 11; and he was not including the trap pass hands.

 

That person, to be consistent, would pass on this auction, and his alleged Leben would include this higher count. But, more mainstream would be to distinguish ranges 0-5 from 6-9, or thereabouts.

 

I am convinced by some good posts that pass is probably not a good idea, though it might work --and did ok in this case. The negative double, followed by 3D, at least would not overstate the values. The problem with doing that is obvious --the auction might turn ugly. CHO might not make a call beneath 3D. But, I can't bring myself to agree with 3D.

 

So, it is still contentment with what occurred or Neg double and hope it works out. If I choose to pass, I think I might as well pass again if pard reopens with a double, since he will never believe my HCP's, anyway.

[Winstonm]

If you bid 3♦ you certainly might get too high. But, you just can't pass, you can't! How will you ever show your hand when partner does anything but pass it out? And even if he does you might well have made 3NT. I mean, passing is just bad! Why try to be a genius just bid your hand.

This is a good point. It shows that in reality this is not a bidding problem but a problem of evaluation - what is the East hand worth?

 

Edit: I am excluding the negative double but perhaps I should not. :)