bluecalm Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 World Championship final. Your opponents are Lauria - Versace.Your partner Eric Rodwell. ♠J98 ♥J643 ♦K43 ♣KJ2 We are vul. RHO deals and bidding goes: 1♥ - pass - 2♥ - pass2♠ - pass - 4♥ - pass 2♠ is natural; invite+ 1♥ is 11-22 natural.Your lead ? (I am posting this because Meck led something different than I would have and my very simplistic simulations confirmed he was right, still it's kinda surprising to me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I guess the ♣2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 ♣2 certainly seems like the right lead. Most likely to produce something useful, and least likely to give up a trick that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 World Championship final. Your opponents are Lauria - Versace.Your partner Eric Rodwell. ♠J98 ♥J643 ♦K43 ♣KJ2 We are vul. RHO deals and bidding goes: 1♥ - pass - 2♥ - pass2♠ - pass - 4♥ - pass 2♠ is natural; invite+ 1♥ is 11-22 natural.Your lead ? (I am posting this because Meck led something different than I would have and my very simplistic simulations confirmed he was right, still it's kinda surprising to me). seems like the 2♣ looks like it requires the least from partner to be a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I would choose the ♣2 but I am very interested in your simulation and Meck's choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted May 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 No more takers ? :lol:Meck led 8♠. My choices were ♣>♦>♥>♠I thought we need to attack after this auction hoping to force declarer.I also wouldn't be surprised if ♥ scores high double dummy as I learnt that leading from xxxx of trump in similr situations is usually very effective. Here we have Jxxx but double dummy it doesn't make that much of a difference (thus I think this lead is overrated in simuls). I tried many constraints for Lauria's hand (14-19hcp 5-4, 13-16 5-4 or 12-14 6-4, etc etc.) and for Versace's I tried 8-9 with doubleton somewhere or 7-8 with 4card support etc. but ♠ always came first with♥/♣ being 2nd choice. Full hand from 2003 bb final: [hv=d=e&v=n&n=sq74h2dj752caqt63&w=skt5hk85dqt96c874&e=sa632haqt97da8c95&s=sj98hj643dk43ckj2]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] On actual layout probably every lead would have worked so it's not that interesting (♦ would allow to make it double dummy but not in actual play I believe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 So, why is the spade best? Just least likely to give something away, with ops not showing a threatening side suit? Or is there more to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Double dummy simulations always favor passive leads. They are very unsuitable for lead decisions. Having said that, I did a simulation and the following leads set 4H most often: 54 times: ♣251 times: ♣J50 times: ♥3, 449 times: ♣K, ♦3, 4, ♥648 times: ♠8. 9 In my simulation RHO had 15-16 HCP with exactly 4 spades and 5 hearts. LHO had either 6-9 HCP with 4 hearts or 7-10 HCP with 3 hearts, also at most 3 spades and no shortness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Double dummy simulations always favor passive leads. They are very unsuitable for lead decisions. Having said that, I did a simulation and the following leads set 4H most often: 54 times: ♣251 times: ♣J50 times: ♥3, 449 times: ♣K, ♦3, 4, ♥648 times: ♠8. 9 In my simulation RHO had 15-16 HCP with exactly 4 spades and 5 hearts. LHO had either 6-9 HCP with 4 hearts or 7-10 HCP with 3 hearts, also at most 3 spades and no shortness. Interesting. Your result suggests (a) that a spade isn't really best, and (b.) there isn't much difference on any lead. bluecalm? Can you be more specific about your sim results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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