All In?

[Jlall]

Playing Pass/correct bids over 2 suited bids is standard practice here except amongst beginners.

lol

Lol at a rude lol. I suggest you look at

http://chrisryall.net/bridge/weak.two/brown.htm

 

You might learn something.

lol

[jdonn]

3♦ LR or better in ♠. I might exclusion 5♥ if things go well Oo

Huh, 3D is pass or correct in Cs. Ok on this hand partner will no doubt bid 4C, but....

I bid 5H

But you are never shy to suggest your preferred treatments. You could try a little harder to accept those of others. I also start 3♦ which I also play as an artificial spade raise.

Its not my peferred agreement. That is standard opposite a michaels.

Standard is it just shows diamonds.... although I had a tough choice in this post, do I laugh at you for making a definitive statement that you can't back up, or do I make one myself that is actually right?

[jjbrr]

+1 to lols

[the hog]

Playing Pass/correct bids over 2 suited bids is standard practice here except amongst beginners.

lol

Lol at a rude lol. I suggest you look at

http://chrisryall.net/bridge/weak.two/brown.htm

 

You might learn something.

lol

Or perhaps not, in your case.

[the hog]

3♦ LR or better in ♠. I might exclusion 5♥ if things go well Oo

Huh, 3D is pass or correct in Cs. Ok on this hand partner will no doubt bid 4C, but....

I bid 5H

But you are never shy to suggest your preferred treatments. You could try a little harder to accept those of others. I also start 3♦ which I also play as an artificial spade raise.

Its not my peferred agreement. That is standard opposite a michaels.

Standard is it just shows diamonds.... although I had a tough choice in this post, do I laugh at you for making a definitive statement that you can't back up, or do I make one myself that is actually right?

As you are mildly less insulting, I will explain it to you.

 

Standard it doesn't just show Ds. That might be standard in places where you are not used to playing 2 suited bids. I suggest you have a look at some of the older convention cards of those who play 2 suited bids, eg the Poles. I say older, because in many use competitions these 2 suiters are banned.

[the hog]

+1 to lols

No show without Punch? Where is Judy?

[jdonn]

Did those Poles have michaels on their card? Did they have 3♦ defined? I'm not going to do your research, sorry.

[Free]

I have never heard of playing 3♦ as P/C. In a country where Muiderberg is played a lot, Michaels is handled pretty much the same, so:

2NT = relay (stronger than 3♣)

3♣ = P/C

3♦ = INV(+) with fit in the Major

3M = signoff/preemptive (M = partner's Major)

 

That's what "standard" is to me, but as we all know standards differ according to the country you live in.

[Fluffy]

stop hijacking the thread! kevin we want the full deal B)

[andy_h]

Can 5♠ not be pre-emptive?

[kfay]

Can 5♠ not be pre-emptive?

After East passes?

[the hog]

Can 5♠ not be pre-emptive?

I still want to know why 5S can't be bid 6 with good trumps!

[655321]

I still want to know why 5S can't be bid 6 with good trumps!

It can be, obviously you and your friends can agree to play that way. But of course your having that agreement would not make your meaning the standard one.

 

As can be seen in the answers in this thread, 5♠ telling partner that your only problem is controls in the opponents suit is completely normal, standard, and surely better. Partner can pass 5♠, or make a bid to show which holding (singleton, void, Ace or King) he has. This meaning for the jump to the 5 level is useful in many different auctions when the opponents have bid a suit.

[the hog]

I still want to know why 5S can't be bid 6 with good trumps!

It can be, obviously you and your friends can agree to play that way. But of course your having that agreement would not make your meaning the standard one.

 

As can be seen in the answers in this thread, 5♠ telling partner that your only problem is controls in the opponents suit is completely normal, standard, and surely better. Partner can pass 5♠, or make a bid to show which holding (singleton, void, Ace or King) he has. This meaning for the jump to the 5 level is useful in many different auctions when the opponents have bid a suit.

Ok, so what is 5H?

[the hog]

I have never heard of playing 3♦ as P/C.  In a country where Muiderberg is played a lot, Michaels is handled pretty much the same, so:

2NT = relay (stronger than 3♣)

3♣ = P/C

3♦ = INV(+) with fit in the Major

3M = signoff/preemptive (M = partner's Major)

 

That's what "standard" is to me, but as we all know standards differ according to the country you live in.

And I didn't not say they didn't. I said "standards here". I have already provided JD witha a link about RCO OCR and CRO twos:

http://chrisryall.net/bridge/weak.two/brown.htm#cro

However he was too lazy to look.

[Fluffy]

5♥ is a hand that controls hearts and tries for slam, sounds like the hand that needs good trumps.

[pooltuna]

this is the easiest 5♠ ever, what am I missing?

a clear meta-agreement that 5♠ in this type of auction is about ♥ control and not about ♠ control. Likewise I think the meta-agreement on 5♥ is equally or more muddy.

 

As an aside I have never seen a book just on meta-agreements.