kfay Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 w/w AKJxx Jx AKxxxx void 4th in hand. (1♥)-2♥-(P)-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I think pushing is a very bad idea here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 3♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 3♦ LR or better in ♠. I might exclusion 5♥ if things go well Oo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 All In? You mean 5♥ as ERKCB to convince opponents to lead something different than ♥ ? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 this is the easiest 5♠ ever, what am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted May 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 this is the easiest 5♠ ever, what am I missing? Sure that's the technical bid :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 3♦ LR or better in ♠. I might exclusion 5♥ if things go well Oo Huh, 3D is pass or correct in Cs. Ok on this hand partner will no doubt bid 4C, but....I bid 5H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Whatever asks about heart control; apparently the Hog thinks it is 5H. I thought it was 5S. Whatever partner thinks is what counts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDean Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I would play it straight and ask for a heart control if we have an agreement about how to do that, but I do kind of like 7♠ directly. How many beers have I had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Is that AI to partner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 3♦ LR or better in ♠. I might exclusion 5♥ if things go well Oo Huh, 3D is pass or correct in Cs. Ok on this hand partner will no doubt bid 4C, but....I bid 5H But you are never shy to suggest your preferred treatments. You could try a little harder to accept those of others. I also start 3♦ which I also play as an artificial spade raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 3♦ LR or better in ♠. I might exclusion 5♥ if things go well Oo Huh, 3D is pass or correct in Cs. Ok on this hand partner will no doubt bid 4C, but....I bid 5H But you are never shy to suggest your preferred treatments. You could try a little harder to accept those of others. I also start 3♦ which I also play as an artificial spade raise. Its not my peferred agreement. That is standard opposite a michaels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Hmm. I had never considered "pass or correct" as a use for 3D on this Michaels auction. Now, I find out it is standard. Guess I am never too old to learn. Now I will wait for a hand where I would want to use 3D for that standard purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 ok kevin, did the bluff work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 w/w AKJxx Jx AKxxxx void 4th in hand. (1♥)-2♥-(P)-? is 5♥ really exclusion in this particular auction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 I cannot think of any other meaning for a 5♠ bid than asking for a heart control. So that is my choice. Any sort of cue bid or artificial raise followed by a 5♠ bid may be misconstrued as a general slam try - especially if partner's next call is 4♠. So, this is probably your last opportunity to make the heart control ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 w/w AKJxx Jx AKxxxx void 4th in hand. (1♥)-2♥-(P)-? is 5♥ really exclusion in this particular auction? What else should it be? I would play 5S as "bid 6 if you have good spades". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 w/w AKJxx Jx AKxxxx void 4th in hand. (1♥)-2♥-(P)-? 2nt...minor ask going very slow expect to end up in 4s...... ---- option two......5s over 2h. h ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 No doubt, that is what 2NT means, I just am not sure what good the inormation will do us. Eventually I only want to find out if partner has a heart control, so your option two seems the simplest to this simple person. edit: also not sure I want the opps to know if we have an 11-card diamond fit. If there is a lightner double, I would rather opener choose his 4-card club suit to lead, than his doubleton diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 No doubt, that is what 2NT means, I just am not sure what good the inormation will do us. Eventually I only want to find out if partner has a heart control, so your option two seems the simplest to this simple person. edit: also not sure I want the opps to know if we have an 11-card diamond fit. If there is a lightner double, I would rather opener choose his 4-card club suit to lead, than his doubleton diamond. Standard is that 2NT ask for the minor and for the strength. Certainly standard bidding here is something like: 2NT 3C = Cs min3D = Ds min3H = C max3S = D max Playing Pass/correct bids over 2 suited bids is standard practice here except amongst beginners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Not quite the time for a flyer like 7♠ or 5♥ exclusion. 1) We will often have a small slam, which is a lot to sacrifice for a grand slam swindle. 2) West will often have ♥AK and lead a top one just as a reflex. Our strength suggests that partner is minimum, so partner probably has many values in clubs, therefore west often has good hearts. 3) West will usually not have an attractive alternative to a top heart. OK, perhaps a trump if he has 2+ of those, but still. 4) If we are supposed to be void, west might be suspicious about his partner not raising. Say west has five hearts. Would he readily assume that his partner has about six without raising? So 5♠ it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 5S. Even if I had 3D available, there is no auction where I'd expect partner to automatically cuebid hearts eg 3D-3S4C-4S I would still move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Playing Pass/correct bids over 2 suited bids is standard practice here except amongst beginners. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Playing Pass/correct bids over 2 suited bids is standard practice here except amongst beginners. lol Lol at a rude lol. I suggest you look athttp://chrisryall.net/bridge/weak.two/brown.htm You might learn something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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