Forcing Pass

[jjbrr]

FP threads tilt me a lot for some reason. The cost of screwing it up is frequently very high and the reward for good agreements is pretty marginal as it is, since you're still guessing a lot of the time anyway.

[655321]

FP threads tilt me a lot for some reason. The cost of screwing it up is frequently very high and the reward for good agreements is pretty marginal as it is, since you're still guessing a lot of the time anyway.

Yes!

[OleBerg]

My partner said bidding a vulnerable game made it forcing pass. Am I correct in thinking that you need to show game-forcing values in order to establish a forcing pass auction?

Indeed you are correct (or rather; would be, facing a regular expert partner.)

 

On a somewhat funny note:

 

In the late 80's you could see sequences, in Denmark, like this:

 

Red vs Red

 

1♥ - (1♠) - 4♥ - (4♠)

 

Now both sides would be in a forcing situation.

[Bridge_Bain]

Most literature I have seen uses vulnerability as a deciding factor in Forcing Pass situation. [This is especially true in fit jumps]. If this is IMPs, and partner freely bid a vulnerable game, the pass should be forcing. Maybe sanity helps here. Who was partner trying to preempt red after (his/her) RHO did not insert a spade bid? Why make a cue bid raise unless interested in slam? The cue bid just gives the opponents other chances to exchange information. But clearly, 4H was bid to make. So, this hand meets the "Game Force Principle".

 

If it had been (us) white against red, this would not be a forcing pass, in my opinion. At MP, red-red, this should be treated like it was IMPs. -200 is a kiss of death and it is far easier to double 4H at MP then IMPs.

 

Personally, I don't believe there is a "standard" treatment for forcing pass situations. I do believe vulnerability should have some influence. Basically, Forcing Pass needs to be discussed in some depth with partner.