4H transfer?

[paulg]

[hv=d=n&v=e&s=sjxxhxxdxxxcaqxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP

West North East South

         1♠   (4♥)     ?[/hv]

Favourable vulnerability against international opponents.

[gwnn]

transfer duly accepted.

[Phil]

I would.

 

At other colors, this becomes more interesting.

[kenrexford]

Funny. Wonder if anyone has ever tried anything like this:

 

Red on white. You are dealt ♠-- ♥AKxx ♦AKxx ♣Axxxx. RHO opens 1♠. You bid 4♥...

 

I just want to do that once, for the laugh.

[mikeh]

as jdonn noted in another thread, I'm chicken, so I do what chickens always do here...I pass

[ArtK78]

I am not chicken, but I would pass.

[Siegmund]

I pass. And thought harder about X than I do about 4S. (Presumably internationals look at the vulnerability before they leap. Folks at my club often don't.)

[jdonn]

4♠ here.

 

And come on Mike, that was a total contradiction I caught :P

[Fluffy]

I find this problem easy at this vulnerability

[junyi_zhu]

[hv=d=n&v=e&s=sjxxhxxdxxxcaqxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP

West North East South

         1♠   (4♥)     ?[/hv]

Favourable vulnerability against international opponents.

This seems a clear pass to me against normal aggressive players, although once a bluemoon we may hit gold when partner holds good clubs and spades. Generally, 4S shouldn't work out well often against aggressive opps. Against rocks, it is a no brainer to bid 4S though, cause they'll make 4H most likely and 4S shouldn't be quite expensive.

[MarkDean]

I would pass, but think it is close.

[aguahombre]

baak baak. But maybe, since Chicken is my second language I spelled it wrong.

[Jlall]

I would pass and consider it not close at all. I have a "rule" not to let them push you more than 1 level higher than you would have bid without competition, ie I would only drive to 2S with this hand (1S p 2S), so I cannot bid 4S. Obv bridge rules are terrible and meant to be broken but I don't see why this is the exception.

[paulg]

[hv=d=n&v=e&n=saktxxxhqdqjcjxxx&w=sqxxhjxxdaktxcktx&e=sxhakt98xxdxxxxcx&s=sjxxhxxdxxxcaqxxx]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

I passed and feel slightly better to have a degree of support. We lost 8 IMPs when my hand bid 4♠ at the other table and this led to them sacrificing in 5♠-X, the par contract although it's unclear that you'll actually make 5♥.

[pooltuna]

I would pass and consider it not close at all. I have a "rule" not to let them push you more than 1 level higher than you would have bid without competition, ie I would only drive to 2S with this hand (1S p 2S), so I cannot bid 4S. Obv bridge rules are terrible and meant to be broken but I don't see why this is the exception.

This looks like a good reason to follow my gut. Good players will be trying to jack you around into making unsound decisions. BTW I think the chickens are actually those who bid 4♠ trying to take out insurance against 4♥. This is of course not to say that 4♥ is definitely going down but that I think the numbers are in our favor for a pass.

[pooltuna]

[hv=d=n&v=e&n=saktxxxhqdqjcjxxx&w=sqxxhjxxdaktxcktx&e=sxhakt98xxdxxxxcx&s=sjxxhxxdxxxcaqxxx]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

I passed and feel slightly better to have a degree of support. We lost 8 IMPs when my hand bid 4♠ at the other table and this led to them sacrificing in 5♠-X, the par contract although it's unclear that you'll actually make 5♥.

I really hate the 1♠ opening with the N hand at these colors. It would be interesting to see how the bidding would go after a 2♠ call.

[gwnn]

ouch. 1S looks perfectly fine to me. 5S by north is nuts.

[bluecalm]

At this vul automatic 4♠ for me, especially if partner knows I may be stretching and won't invite/bid a slam assuming better values.

 

I really hate the 1♠ opening with the N hand at these colors.

 

Do you realize we are nonvul and they are vul and not other way around ?

[Codo]

I really hate the 1♠ opening with the N hand at these colors. It would be interesting to see how the bidding would go after a 2♠ call.

No way. 1 ♠ is obvious, maybe 4 ♠ but nothing else.

[jdonn]

I would pass and consider it not close at all. I have a "rule" not to let them push you more than 1 level higher than you would have bid without competition, ie I would only drive to 2S with this hand (1S p 2S), so I cannot bid 4S. Obv bridge rules are terrible and meant to be broken but I don't see why this is the exception.

I don't see why this is an exception to any rule, but I don't see why we would have that rule either. And obv you don't follow it on all auctions since there are lots of hands you would overcall 1♠ over 1♥ and not bid higher than 2♠ on your own, but overcall 4♠ over 4♥.

[aguahombre]

I was wondering about that, too, JD. But I think he was referring to supporting actions or responses, not entry into the auction under pressure.

[Phil]

Some interesting contrasts between this hand and the 1♥ - (5♦) hand where we held xx KTxx xx AJTxx (I think).

[junyi_zhu]

Dealer: North Vul: E/W Scoring: IMP

♠ AKTxxx ♥ Q ♦ QJ ♣ Jxxx ♠ Qxx ♥ Jxx ♦ AKTx ♣ KTx ♠ x ♥ AKT98xx ♦ xxxx ♣ x ♠ Jxx ♥ xx ♦ xxx ♣ AQxxx

I passed and feel slightly better to have a degree of support. We lost 8 IMPs when my hand bid 4♠ at the other table and this led to them sacrificing in 5♠-X, the par contract although it's unclear that you'll actually make 5♥.

I really hate the 1♠ opening with the N hand at these colors. It would be interesting to see how the bidding would go after a 2♠ call.

Lol, this logic sounds so familiar.

[jdonn]

Yes the old weak 2 on a 6-4 13 count at favorable vulnerability. Welcome to 1955!

[ArtK78]

Yes the old weak 2 on a 6-4 13 count at favorable vulnerability. Welcome to 1955!

While I would open the hand 1♠, calling that collection of queens and jacks in the non-spade suits a 13 count is quite an exaggeration.