leb/reverse after interference

[jillybean]

(P) P (P) 1♦

(1♠) P (P) 2♥

(P) 2N*

 

Playing lebensohl over reverses, how do you play 2N by a passed hand, after the interference.

[Jlall]

natural

[Codo]

I play 2 NT always as artifical so I will do here. Lebensohl it is.

[hanp]

Playing 2NT as lebensohl here would be very foolish imo. With good hands you can just bid 2S, and 3D can be NF. 2NT as natural is useful and there is no reason to sacrifice this meaning since the cue is available.

[Free]

Agree with Han here.

[Codo]

2 NT natural?

I bite.

 

You passed 1 Spade and now think that 2 NT is a good description of your hand. What kind of hand do you think of? Too weak for 1 NT direct, so lets say 5-6 HCPs in spades and nothing else?

 

I can think of exactly one hand type, something like KJxx, xx, xx,Jxxxx.

Partner did not double, so he seems to have at most two clubs. So for 2 NT you need to stop both black suits and you are too weak for a direct 1 Nt and you do not want to pass 2 ♥.

A rare bird, isn't it?

[hanp]

Sounds about right Codo, 4-6 HCP, spade stopper, no fit. You can have any of these shapes:

 

4324

5323

4225

5314

5215

5224

 

Maybe more.

[jillybean]

This was my hand, perhaps some would bid 2♣/(1♠)

 

A9843, 73, 9, AJ743

[hanp]

If you didn't then you can now bid 2S and show a GF hand.

 

I would have bid 2C though, you are a passed hand so its not even forcing, perfect.

[jillybean]

If you didn't then you can now bid 2S and show a GF hand.

 

I would have bid 2C though, you are a passed hand so its not even forcing, perfect.

Why do you make a 2♠ GF with this and little hope of a fit.

 

A9843, 73, 9, AJ743

[hanp]

Partner reversed and we have two aces, I would certainly force to game.

[jjbrr]

i agree with everything han's said here.

[Jlall]

2H is non forcing, and when we are 5-5 in the blacks I expect partner to very likely be 5-6 because the only time he wouldn't reopen X is if he has short clubs and spade length. I suppose 2461 is still possible, but something like 3451 or 3460 is now very unlikely.

 

I would expect partner to reopen with 2H on just about any 5-6 hand, so I think bidding 2N is fine. And in general I think treating this auction like a normal reverse is bad given that partner can reopen X on almost all x45x hands, and that this bid isn't even forcing, and is generally based more on shape than strength (and a combination of the 2).

[peachy]

Let us first figure why opener chose 2H, instead of Dbl, 1NT, or 2S. The answer appears that his hand is too distributional, 6-5 probable and 2-4-6-1 or more extreme not out of the picture.

 

I don't like Lebensohl on by passed hand (twice passed here) and in competition. This is logically one of the rare exceptions to the rule that 2NT in competition cannot be natural. It should be natural here, unless you have already agreed 2NT is always Lebensohl after reverse, passed/unpassed and with/without competition.