olegeorge Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Pass, Pass, Pass, and I had: ♠ AKQJ3♥ Void♦A♣AQJ9853 I opened 2♣ and partner responded2♦ - waiting only (2♥ would have been negative) How should I have bid the hand - to show my 2 long suits? We were lucky - and got a next to top as follows: 2♣2♦3♣3♥6♣7 NT - which was cold. The only issues on the hand are - IF NT - partner needs (of course) to have the A♥ and the K♣ One guy said: 2♣, 2♦, 2♠, (whatever), and then 6♣ Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 2c=2d(random a or k)3c(long clubs 3 loser hand)=3h3s(natural)=? ---------- option two: 2c=2d3c=3h4c=? btw I will assume kickback so 4d in option 2=rkc for clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Pass, Pass, Pass, and I had: ♠ AKQJ3♥ Void♦A♣AQJ9853 I opened 2♣ and partner responded2♦ - waiting only (2♥ would have been negative) How should I have bid the hand - to show my 2 long suits? We were lucky - and got a next to top as follows: 2♣2♦3♣3♥6♣7 NT - which was cold. The only issues on the hand are - IF NT - partner needs (of course) to have the A♥ and the K♣ One guy said: 2♣, 2♦, 2♠, (whatever), and then 6♣ Thanks! I seem to recall a recent thread where an auction like 2♣-2♦; 6♣ showed something like a hand where your partner could raise to 7 with the ♣K. Of course that doesn't help you if you belong instead in 7♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijumper Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 I am sorry to say the bidding course is the ugliest I have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 If 2C -2D, 3any sets trump and demands specific info --this one is easy. If with a pickup partner it is not. 2C-2D*(waiting)3C-4H* (jump to show high club, H to show Ace).7N (no need for further asking bids this time) If partner's rebid were different, asking bids would still uncover whether there is a spade fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 I bid 4♣ over 2♦ But then again I didn't realize I had 5 spades... Maybe I still bid 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 If 2C -2D, 3any sets trump and demands specific info --this one is easy. If with a pickup partner it is not. 2C-2D*(waiting)3C-4H* (jump to show high club, H to show Ace).7N (no need for further asking bids this time) If partner's rebid were different, asking bids would still uncover whether there is a spade fit. A 3♣ rebid sets the trump suit and asks for specific info? I imagine that that method would have its successes, but it would make a number of hands unbiddable. Suppose you held this rather innocuous strong hand: xAKQAKxAKJxxx After 2♣ - 2♦, what are you supposed to bid? I do not want to unilaterally set clubs as trump on this hand. But what bid do you suggest other than 3♣? Or suppose you have an even more commonplace hand like this: AKJxAQxxAKQTx Am I supposed to bid 2♠ over 2♦? Do you play Canape after 2♣ openings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Hi, One option is to open 1C. If you open 2C, you have basically reached 3S, and at best shown 6 clubs, 4spades. The risk that 1C gets passed out with "only" 21HCP and 25 missing red cards is very low.And you will be a lot better placed, if they come in, not unlikely giventhat you are missing 25 ..., we had this one already. Your plan is to make a reverse with 2S, repeat spades, showing 6-5,which is already pretty close to the distribution you hold.An alternative option is to use special openings. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Playing matchpoints I would bid my suits in the natural order, and keep bidding them. 2C - 2D3C - 3H3S - ? I don't know what will happen next, but of course I'm driving to 6C, and partner will bid 7 with the king. If I could self-agree clubs and then ask for keycards, I would, but personally I can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Where are you Cascade? He has 3NT as specific ace ask then 4NT is specific king ask I think. Apparently the hand where it's useful has finally been dealt, albeit on a different continent <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 ArtK: those hands are handled differently...was just telling you what 2C followed by a 3-level bid shows in our style, which might be interesting to some people. What we do with the hands you gave would be a total hijack to describe here. And, as before, am not advocating anything. Just giving another approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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