medlin Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 You have QJ10xx, QJ10xx, xxx, - and open 2♦. It's mean two suiter 5-5, at least one of them is major. You are in not vulnerable, opponent in vulnerable. Auction is following: 2♦ - 2NT - P - 3♣P - 3♦ - P - 3♠?? 2NT NAT 16-183♣ puppet Stayman3♦ 4 cards major, no 5 cards3♠ 4 cards ♥ What's your bid now? Pass or double and why? Whole hands are interesting and I give you it later :( . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Pass. Why should I double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medlin Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 OK, but why pass. Do you want heart lead rather than spade? Do pass show ♥ + minor or maybe only bad spade? Partner is thinging about defence contract in minor suit above 3NT, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 The main advantage of Wilkosz is that everybody has to guess the suits. Why should I take this advantage away now? Just to stop partner from thinking that we have a fit in a minor? He needs a hand like 1255 to suggest a good defence over 3 NT. Not too likely- and with long diamonds he may had doubled 3 diamond anyway. Nah, I pass and hope that they end in spades. if they don't, I am fine with partners heart lead too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Pass. Nobody knows which suits you have. You don't know whether they have a 4-4 heart fit and are going to crash and burn on the 5-0 split. You don't know if spade lead is best against their contract. You don't know what contract they are going to be in. You don't want to encourage partner to sacrifice, or to think your side has a minor suit fit. So many bad things can happen if you double. Leave them alone. The opening muddled the scenery, let's not make it clear for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Pass. - you don't want a ♠ lead- you don't deny ♠ as a suit by passing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 just pass and watch them go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Pass. Why should I double? only justification for an X is to assume the opps will end up in 3NT and you would prefer a ♠ lead to that of a ♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 OK, but why pass. Do you want heart lead rather than spade? Do pass show ♥ + minor or maybe only bad spade? Partner is thinging about defence contract in minor suit above 3NT, who knows. When you open with Wilkosz, a pass in a contsted auction shows nothing about the suits. A double is making life easy for the opponents when it is their hand. Double would indicate extra strength in that suit and a willingness to go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medlin Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=skxxxxhxdcaxxxxxx&w=saxhaxxdakxxxxcqx&e=sxhkxxxdqj10xckj9x&s=sqj10xxhqj10xxdxxxc]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Interesting hands, 5♠ by NS, 6♦ by E. As you see, E bid and explain correctly (we used screen) bud W no. His explanation was that 3♠ is 5cards. 3♠ I didn't double and final contract was 3NT by W. After lead I called director. Result was 3NT+3 after club lead. Director's decide was - result 3NT+3 stay. He explain me, that I have a valid claim to right explanation by opponent, their hands are irellevant. But after correct explanation (puppet and so on ... ) I will not double anyway. I thing, that double is possible, maybe automatic for me. Now I see, that not for all :ph34r: . Thanx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 could you explain in 3 or 4 sentences why double is a non-idiotic choice? it's not true that "you have spades" or "you have hearts" it is a little moot to talk about "what your major is", in fact I could say that YOU HAVE BOTH SPADES AND HEARTS so what difference does it make what partner leads?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medlin Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 1. After 3NT by W I want spade lead, partner has 0-4 ♠ and 0-2 ♥. 2. Inform partner. Pass he can interpret as hearts + minor and he tries to guess my minor after 3NT by W to lead or to bid.3. If I hide spades, show hearts to opponents. Of course, if I show spades, hide hearts. It's not advantage of double, but also not disadvantage. Good luck in your decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 what do you mean? LHO promised a 4 card major (I see he doesn't have one but your original problem said so)RHO promised 4 cards in hearts chances are the two 4 card majors aren't the same so partner has 0-2 cards in both majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medlin Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 No, RHO promised 4♥, but not balanced hand.LHO promised 4M, but only in correct explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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