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[pooltuna]

I wouldn't want to splinter with East's hand because my 2♣ can be as short as 2, or 3 if you prefer it.

for you to have a problem you would have 3 or less ♠, 2 or less ♥ and 3 or less ♣ .....hmmm that leaves 5 or more ♦ now why were you bidding ♣?

[aguahombre]

Pool: there you go making assumptions again. Why are you assuming the hand has 13 cards?

[pooltuna]

Pool: there you go making assumptions again. Why are you assuming the hand has 13 cards?

yeah it's tough after I get to 10 as I run out of hands and don't feel like taking my shoes off

[aguahombre]

on another thread, I explained how I count up to 20 1/2

[Bbradley62]

So, after 41 people have voted, the poll shows that West gets over 75% of the blame. Do we want OP to think that is actually the final answer, or do we now think that East should have been able to visualize 12 tricks opposite a minimum 2/1 response and sign-off by partner?

[aguahombre]

I believe the poll does not really reflect a proper blame assessment because West should probably not have had the opportunity to make the bid that everyone hates. And the fact that East failed to visualize is obscured by the focus on 5C.

 

If the poll were to choose the worst call, then......

[Jlall]

100 % west for missing 7, 100 % east for missing 6.

 

5C is a normal bid to me with xx xx xx AKQJxxx

[andy_h]

I wouldn't want to splinter with East's hand because my 2♣ can be as short as 2, or 3 if you prefer it.

for you to have a problem you would have 3 or less ♠, 2 or less ♥ and 3 or less ♣ .....hmmm that leaves 5 or more ♦ now why were you bidding ♣?

3244, 33(43), 4333, 4243, 4144, 4342 are typical hands. If you don't like it with 4♦'s, assume they are ♦Jxxx or worse.