Mixed Raise?

[Phil]

♠Q9xx ♥K ♦Qxxxx ♣Qxx

 

Red / White - IMPs - long matches

 

(1♥) - 1♠ - (pass) - ?

 

3♥ is a mixed raise

3♠ is preemptive

 

Everything else is standard.

 

Your choice?

[hrothgar]

♠Q9xx ♥K ♦Qxxxx ♣Qxx

 

Red / White - IMPs - long matches

 

(1♥) - 1♠ - (pass) - ?

 

3♥ is a mixed raise

3♠ is preemptive

 

Everything else is standard.

 

Your choice?

Mixed

[jjbrr]

Mixed for me also.

[gwnn]

mixed raise ty

[mikegill]

I can't imagine why anyone would want to not show a mixed raise on this. A more interesting question would have been - what do you bid if you don't have a mixed raise?

[jjbrr]

if no mixed raise is available i'd just make a constructive raise

[aguahombre]

Not sure I know how to make a contructive raise of an overcall.

 

Reverse the red honors and I like 3H mixed. Will try the preempt with this one. Pard is vulnerable, too; he might bid 4 anyway.

[andy_h]

Mixed raise. If I didn't have that available I'd go for 3♠ as I can't be that crazy at r/w.

[aguahombre]

the Term "mixed" raise means something different to me, apparently. I use the term to describe a responding or advancing hand, which has enough trump support for a "lawful" jump raise, but more strength than a preempt and less than a game invite.

 

I don't believe the stiff king in a suit bid on my left and two stranded queens outside the trump suit qualifies.

[jdonn]

the Term "mixed" raise means something different to me, apparently.

So does the term "high card points".

[655321]

I don't get it.

 

How is this hand not a textbook mixed raise?

[Jlall]

I don't get it.

 

How is this hand not a textbook mixed raise?

omg my comment was gonna be "textbook mixed raise" but you stole my thunder!

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

It is certainly not inv., and I wont bid game, it is not clear, that they have

anything, so it is either preemptive or mixed, and I would go with mixed,

since preemptive could be whole lot weaker.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[hanp]

Unanimous.

[whereagles]

indeed ;)

[Ant590]

So Phil, was this for a bet, or did someone's opinion differ from the collective mind that is the BBO forums?

[Phil]

So Phil, was this for a bet, or did someone's opinion differ from the collective mind that is the BBO forums?

I didn't think it was 'textbook' at all, but I thought it was a reasonable MR. Wanted to backcheck this.

 

'Textbook' to me is Q9xx xx AQxx xxx.

 

Maybe we read different books.

[Fluffy]

I can sell you mine phil, for 30$ it will do :), its in spannish though lol.

[aguahombre]

'Textbook' to me is Q9xx xx AQxx xxx.

 

Maybe we read different books.

Maybe you and I are the only ones who read that book. Hmm, four trumps. Too strong for a 3S preempt. Too weak for a L.R. Hence, mixed.

 

Perhaps the people who declared the other hand unanimous, or the collective mind of BBO, have a different idea of what a mixed raise is than those of us who have no collective mind. But, maybe it does illustrate another topic worthy of discussion in advance with partner --since partner's agreement is all that matters.

[straube]

Q9xx K Qxxxx Qxx knr 6.45 but downgrade for king in opponent's suit

 

Q9xx xx AQxx xxx knr 7.95

[jdonn]

Q9xx K Qxxxx Qxx knr 6.45 but downgrade for king in opponent's suit

 

Q9xx xx AQxx xxx knr 7.95

They are both mixed raises, a bid which has a wider range than 1.5 points.

[gnasher]

'Textbook' to me is Q9xx xx AQxx xxx.

I think that's just good enough for a fit jump. Not playing fit jumps, I'd make a mixed raise with either this hand or the original one. Every bids covers a range of strengths.

[jjbrr]

That hand is way too light for a fit jump imo, both in shape and strength.

[jdonn]

A fit jump really would not have occured to me. 4-4? I don't mind the minimal strength, change an offsuit card to another diamond (or maybe even spade) and it would be fine.

[Fluffy]

I frequently make fit jumps with 5-4 (5 trumps), but with 4-4 haven't tried yet.