MickyB Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=s86hakj864daqct95]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-(1♠)-2♠-(4♠)P-(P)-?? 2♠ is limit-plus with 3+hearts, the pass over 4♠ is non-forcing.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 What would 4N be here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted April 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Keycard, I'm afraid :D What agreements do you have in your partnerships that might be more useful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=s86hakj864daqct95]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-(1♠)-2♠-(4♠)P-(P)-?? 2♠ is limit-plus with 3+hearts, the pass over 4♠ is non-forcing.[/hv]Partner has to have stuff in the minors for his opening in 1st seat.... based on your hand, but he could have 2 losing spades.5H! = asking to bid 6 with first or 2nd Rnd Ctrl of Sp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=s86hakj864daqct95]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-(1♠)-2♠-(4♠)P-(P)-?? 2♠ is limit-plus with 3+hearts, the pass over 4♠ is non-forcing.[/hv]Partner has to have stuff in the minors for his opening in 1st seat.... based on your hand, but he could have 2 losing spades.5H! = asking to bid 6 with first or 2nd Rnd Ctrl of Sp. 5H is to play, not a slam try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 5D. I thought for awhile if 5C can gain (gives partner a last train step) but I think it's not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 prefer 5h ...vul...as a game try... Hope we make 5 will pard guess we have 11 trumps and I have 2 spades? maybe....but.... worried 5d may misinform...but...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Simple 5♦ bid. 1) I didn't splinter.2) Don't have a club cue. Partner's not going to guess at whether I have a spade control or not so this seems pretty straight-forward to me. Hard to imagine with my trumps that he will be able to accept but if he's looking at 3 aces and a king or AK AK and a stiff well... what could I possibly have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 I would also bid 5D, but I promise you that partner won't have 3 aces, and will rarely accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 I would also bid 5D, but I promise you that partner won't have 3 aces, and will rarely accept. Why will partner rarely accept? We made a slam try opposite a hand that was willing to defend 4S undoubled! He doesn't need much to accept. For example it would not occur to me to sign off with x Qxxxx KJxx AQx or something. Also what kfay said is true, partner knows we didn't splinter so will be very careful about bidding on with a doubleton spade. In fact there are no hands with a doubleton spade that I think are consistent with passing 4S where I would now bid slam over 5D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Keycard, I'm afraid :D What agreements do you have in your partnerships that might be more useful? At least three aces out of five. Cuebids now start in 5♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 I would also bid 5D, but I promise you that partner won't have 3 aces, and will rarely accept. well what can i say, it's late :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=s86hakj864daqct95]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-(1♠)-2♠-(4♠)P-(P)-?? 2♠ is limit-plus with 3+hearts, the pass over 4♠ is non-forcing.[/hv]Partner has to have stuff in the minors for his opening in 1st seat.... based on your hand, but he could have 2 losing spades.5H! = asking to bid 6 with first or 2nd Rnd Ctrl of Sp. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=s86hakj864daqct95]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-(1♠)-2♠-(4♠)P-(P)-?? 2♠ is limit-plus with 3+hearts, the pass over 4♠ is non-forcing.[/hv]Well you are pretty much systemically screwed and when that happens I usually take the conservative action since I can't produce any numbers that suggest slam is necessarily 50% or better. Here the potential for 2♠ losers still exists altho I recognize the reduced probabililty engendered by our 11+ card fit. Even passing that test we still have the chances a ♣ & ♠ loser as well as a reduced probability for a ♠ & ♦ loser. So the combination of all of those looks like an odds against slam and just 5♥ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=s86hakj864daqct95]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-(1♠)-2♠-(4♠)P-(P)-?? 2♠ is limit-plus with 3+hearts, the pass over 4♠ is non-forcing.[/hv]Partner has to have stuff in the minors for his opening in 1st seat.... based on your hand, but he could have 2 losing spades.5H! = asking to bid 6 with first or 2nd Rnd Ctrl of Sp. lol"Brainfade"... duhhWhy did I "see" 4S as 3S ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 5♦ seems fine. He will have bad trumps but I don't want him accepting without plenty of strength in the minors anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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