Little Kid Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Just out of curiosity, what percentage of "BBO experts" or better do you think can solve all the Bridge Master 2000 level 5 hands? Lets say they get 5 min to play each hand (no second attempts for any hand). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 My guess is 0.2376% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 My guess is 0.2376% Whoa.. I think it must be closer to 0.002%.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I have owned a complete set since some time in the 1990s, and there are still two deals that I haven't solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmilne Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Yeah, it would be ridiculously low. Or maybe this is the shame at only getting the guard squeeze on the second go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 If you've tried them enough, you remember how to play them... :) I guess on the first attempt, it would be 0. Even WC players won't get them all in 1 go imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 My guess is 0.2376% Whoa.. I think it must be closer to 0.002%.. Or .00002% since I doubt ANY BBO expert could solve all 30. And in five minutes per hand? No effing way. A more interesting bet would be to give the set to Fantoni or Rosenberg and see if they could, although I wouldn't be surprised if they've already done the set at one time or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Just out of curiosity, what percentage of "BBO experts" or better do you think can solve all the Bridge Master 2000 level 3 hands? Lets say they get 10 min to play each hand (no second attempts for any hand).I fixed the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I have owned a complete set since some time in the 1990s, and there are still two deals that I haven't solved. That settles it, none. Ok maybe Bramley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 If a real expert said he got them all, first try, no more than 30 minutes per hand, I would think he is lying. I would be surprised if some of the BBO experts get any of them at Level 5. So the answer to the problem as posted is 0%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_R__E_G Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I'd like to hear if Fred thinks he could do it. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I have owned a complete set since some time in the 1990s, and there are still two deals that I haven't solved. That settles it, none. Ok maybe Bramley? I hope Andy won't be insulted, but I believeRosenberg > gnasher (as an analyst). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I'd like to hear if Fred thinks he could do it. :-)I very much doubt I could do it even if I had a gun against my head. In the absense of the gun, I would not have the patience to give it my best effort. I am pretty sure that my best effort would have been better 20 years ago than it is now. When we first created Bridge Master (in 1992), we used Eric Rodwell as one of our guinea pigs. If I recall correctly, he got 25 of 30 hands from A-5 right on his first attempt. It took Eric the better part of a day to accomplish this - it seemed like he was trying hard. At the time I thought that this was a remarkable performance (and I still do). I suspect that the number of players who could score this well would be very small. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I might buy this and try it now :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Kid Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Well, I just started them and am already stuck on number 5 :unsure: Don't want to try the next ones until I get it right without looking at the answers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I'd like to hear if Fred thinks he could do it. :-)I very much doubt I could do it even if I had a gun against my head. In the absense of the gun, I would not have the patience to give it my best effort. I am pretty sure that my best effort would have been better 20 years ago than it is now. When we first created Bridge Master (in 1992), we used Eric Rodwell as one of our guinea pigs. If I recall correctly, he got 25 of 30 hands from A-5 right on his first attempt. It took Eric the better part of a day to accomplish this - it seemed like he was trying hard. At the time I thought that this was a remarkable performance (and I still do). I suspect that the number of players who could score this well would be very small. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.comI am so relieved to hear that :unsure: There is one level 5 problem that I have got wrong every single time I tried it....I haven't tackled it for years but for a while I ran the level 5 hands before every CNTC as part of getting my mind into the right state, and even tho I had seen the answer maybe 4 or 5 times, I'd still get stuck. I wonder if I could do it now? I sorta doubt it...declarer play tends to get worse with age once one is beyond a certain point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_R__E_G Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I'd like to hear if Fred thinks he could do it. :-)I very much doubt I could do it even if I had a gun against my head. In the absense of the gun, I would not have the patience to give it my best effort. I am pretty sure that my best effort would have been better 20 years ago than it is now. When we first created Bridge Master (in 1992), we used Eric Rodwell as one of our guinea pigs. If I recall correctly, he got 25 of 30 hands from A-5 right on his first attempt. It took Eric the better part of a day to accomplish this - it seemed like he was trying hard. At the time I thought that this was a remarkable performance (and I still do). I suspect that the number of players who could score this well would be very small. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.comI'm glad I asked the question - I've never heard that story about Rodwell doing the testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Well, I just started them and am already stuck on number 5 :unsure: Don't want to try the next ones until I get it right without looking at the answers though. Yeah I got the first 4 in about 5 seconds each and I'm tanking hardddddd on #5 lol edit: Your rating: INCORRECT :( edit: Dammit got it right on my 2nd try.......................... NOOOOOOOOO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 dang, the demo is a dead link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Done with 15, missed 5 and 9 so far, completely tilted that I missed 5 still... edit: F my life mistimed 16...On 17 I thought i was in 4S and I was in 6, allowing myself a redo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 when I tried them I think I could only make a compound squeeze one, but by pure luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Done with 15, missed 5 and 9 so far, completely tilted that I missed 5 still... edit: F my life mistimed 16... too bad real life doesn't announce "This is a toughie" :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 I'd like to hear if Fred thinks he could do it. :-)I very much doubt I could do it even if I had a gun against my head. In the absense of the gun, I would not have the patience to give it my best effort. I am pretty sure that my best effort would have been better 20 years ago than it is now. When we first created Bridge Master (in 1992), we used Eric Rodwell as one of our guinea pigs. If I recall correctly, he got 25 of 30 hands from A-5 right on his first attempt. It took Eric the better part of a day to accomplish this - it seemed like he was trying hard. At the time I thought that this was a remarkable performance (and I still do). I suspect that the number of players who could score this well would be very small. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.comI am so relieved to hear that B) There is one level 5 problem that I have got wrong every single time I tried it....I haven't tackled it for years but for a while I ran the level 5 hands before every CNTC as part of getting my mind into the right state, and even tho I had seen the answer maybe 4 or 5 times, I'd still get stuck. I wonder if I could do it now? I sorta doubt it...declarer play tends to get worse with age once one is beyond a certain point. good for you that you can rethink them, I remember most of them, happens also with kelsey's books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Went over on time on 22 and still have no clue heh. Gotta work, I've gotten 4 wrong out of 23 so far, meh. Doesn't look like I'll beat Rodwell B) Getting 5 wrong will tilt me forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburn Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Where can one obtain these problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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