Aberlour10 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Holding following hand in second seat: [hv=s=saqj9652haq73dajc]133|100|[/hv] What to do after 3♣preempt? GIB made 3s bid. ...but there is always a danger p pass it with hand that is even good enough to make the game. How do you handle such a problem? 3s?4s? x? maybe 4c?Thanks for comments! Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I would bid 4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 4S, I'd need a bit more to bid 5S and generally 5S is better when you need aces rather than kings or other fillers like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 4♠ from me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 My partner once doubled on a hand like this and I jumped to 4H and we got to 7 when I would have passed 4S heh. Nevertheless I would just bid 4S here I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I really want to double here. My fears are two fold - being passed (not horrible, but we're not in our best place), and that X - 3D - 4S is an overbid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I really want to double here. My fears are two fold - being passed (not horrible, but we're not in our best place), and that X - 3D - 4S is an overbid. I'm with you strongly on the fear of being passed! I would not worry about overbidding with this hand though, you have the equivalent of a 2C opener in playing strength pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I would double and bid 4♠ to invite slam but unfortunately chances are high partner will leave the double.I don't know what 4♣ and 4♠ would mean. Anyway I feel that my hand is worth slam invite. If have no way to make it I guess I bid 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I really want to double here. My fears are two fold - being passed (not horrible, but we're not in our best place), and that X - 3D - 4S is an overbid. I'm with you strongly on the fear of being passed! I would not worry about overbidding with this hand though, you have the equivalent of a 2C opener in playing strength pretty easily. I think the fear is partner won't expect a suit like this if we don't get to jump (like 4♣ 4♦ p 4♠ or even p 3NT p 4♠) and may pull us out of spades if he is short to some silly diamond contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 I would not double on the fear of being passed. Furthermore, if I were playing in a robot tournament, I would expect my robot partner to pass! I have seen this so often that I shy away from all but the most obvious takeout doubles. 4♠ is an underbid. Double followed by 4♠ is about right, except for that nasty passout possibility. The only other possibility is 4♣ followed by 4♠. But that could lead to a misunderstanding when I bid 4♠ over 4♥. All in all, I suspect that 4♠ is the practical bid, but there is no doubt that it is an underbid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinorKid Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 I'll dbl. If p bids 4♥ i'd still be happy. EDIT: Dbl instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 A simple way (that most people don't do) is to play an extension of the Michaels cuebids, called Leaping Michaels. In this case, bidding 4♣ shows the Majors, and 4♦ asks for your better major (obv. ♠). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 And if partner is 1-3 in the majors why would he ask which is better? 1-2? What if you have equal length and choose his shorter one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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