jjbrr Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 and because I have a rebid for any of partner's further calls. Which is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 and because I have a rebid for any of partner's further calls. Which is? I'll raise spades and bid NT over most other rebids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Mel Colchamiro's rule of 9...add # trump, # honors including T, level of contract and if 9 pass.Fred's Rule of 2... There are only 2 reliable rules in bridge: the Rule of 11 and Fred's Rule of 2. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Mel Colchamiro's rule of 9...add # trump, # honors including T, level of contract and if 9 pass.Fred's Rule of 2... There are only 2 reliable rules in bridge: the Rule of 11 and Fred's Rule of 2. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com I'll bite. What's your rule of 2? Oh, I get it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Josh's rule of irony... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Mel Colchamiro's rule of 9...add # trump, # honors including T, level of contract and if 9 pass.Fred's Rule of 2... There are only 2 reliable rules in bridge: the Rule of 11 and Fred's Rule of 2. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com I'll bite. What's your rule of 2?There are only 2 reliable rules in bridge: the Rule of 11 and Fred's Rule of 2. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Mel Colchamiro's rule of 9...add # trump, # honors including T, level of contract and if 9 pass.Fred's Rule of 2... There are only 2 reliable rules in bridge: the Rule of 11 and Fred's Rule of 2. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com I thought this was the rule of 10 or the rule of 12 since leading 4th best has apparently become passe :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Mel Colchamiro's rule of 9...add # trump, # honors including T, level of contract and if 9 pass.Fred's Rule of 2... There are only 2 reliable rules in bridge: the Rule of 11 and Fred's Rule of 2. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com I'll bite. What's your rule of 2?There are only 2 reliable rules in bridge: the Rule of 11 and Fred's Rule of 2. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Actually, Rule of 10-12 is not bad either! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 For those who pass, how important is it that this is an SAYC or 2/1 question? If opponents were playing Acol with 4-card majors and a weak NT, in which 1♦ always shows at least 4 and quite often 5 if hands with 4M + 4♦ are opened 1M or 1N, would this make any difference to your vote? My guess would be no (or not in the way you might think). If opener has 3 diamonds he will never sit for 1D-X; the opponents will probably flee to their heart fit. I don't think we will be happy if LHO runs to 1H and RHO raises. IMO opener's diamond length makes the pass more attractive. It makes it more likely that he will be forced to play 1D-X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 This hand is actually from a free GIB duplicate tournament. GIB bid 3♣. GIB and MACPHEE obviously have not seen the random T/O doubles advocated herein. 3C is much too dangerous, with that in mind. GIB had the benefit of knowing that his twin brother had made the takeout double, so it wasn't as random as it might otherwise be :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I would Pass. I have a reasonable amount of sympathy for 2C. I have some sympathy for 3C (because the upside is so big) even though I consider it a weird bid. I have no sympathy for 1NT (too weird with this distribution). Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Then, how do I transfer this thread to the GIB section, in the hope that GIB will be modified to pass instead of making "a weird bid"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Pass is pretty obvious to me. Thanks for the rofl Hog :) Np Frederick, hope you are still laughing after it makes because your trumps aren't good enough to draw his. I suspect it is making, not because of trump quality, but merely because the hand is in the forum ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 This hand is actually from a free GIB duplicate tournament. GIB bid 3♣. Can you post the full deal please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Mel Colchamiro's rule of 9...add # trump, # honors including T, level of contract and if 9 pass. Fred's Rule of 2...There are only 2 reliable rules in bridge: the Rule of 11 and Fred's Rule of 2.I'll bite. What's your rule of 2?There are only 2 reliable rules in bridge: the Rule of 11 and Fred's Rule of 2.I thought this (rule of 2) was the rule of 10 or the rule of 12 since leading 4th best has apparently become passe :)They're unreliable :rolleyes: each works only half the time :)Burn's laws, however, work most of the time :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 This hand is actually from a free GIB duplicate tournament. GIB bid 3♣. Can you post the full deal please?[hv=d=n&v=n&n=st743hq6543djcq82&w=sk95hjt92dk8caj53&e=saqh7dt97654ck974&s=sj862hak8daq32ct6]399|300|Scoring: XIMPP-P-1♦-DblP-3♣-all pass[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Yay for resulting! Just 1400 after it turns out to be surprisingly easy to draw declarer's trumps? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I suspect it is making, not because of trump quality, but merely because the hand is in the forum ;) No, the hand is in the forum because I wanted to be sure that other people agreed that 3♣ was a weird bid before I complained about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) Yay for resulting! Just 1400 after it turns out to be surprisingly easy to draw declarer's trumps? :P Is this one of your sarcastic remarks because not even me would play this in 1DX.. EDIT: Also, isn't it 1100? Edited March 31, 2010 by mohitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 The most amusing alternate auction was:P-P-1♣-P1♥-P-2♥-PP-3♦-Dble-all pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Yay for resulting! Just 1400 after it turns out to be surprisingly easy to draw declarer's trumps? :P Is this one of your sarcastic remarks because not even me would play this in 1DX.. EDIT: Also, isn't it 1100? I think north has an automatic bid but he did pass. I think south has an automatic pass. But yes it's a mere 1100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I think south has an automatic pass. That is really terrible then! AQ32 and good majors?!?! Edit: Willing to do our std bet of ask 5 experts on this one (south's action after 1D X P P ?) since we're obv not gonna agree and are on the opposite end of the spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 What should he do? Redouble and partner might bid 2♣, or 1♥ with equal length in the majors? Bid 1♠ on Jxxx? Actually you're wrong maybe I could be convinced but I really don't see how he could run effectively even if he wanted to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 What should he do? Redouble and partner might bid 2♣, or 1♥ with equal length in the majors? Bid 1♠ on Jxxx? Actually you're wrong maybe I could be convinced but I really don't see how he could run effectively even if he wanted to! Yeah I think he should XX, not worried at all about a 2C bid, if partner bids that they have at least 5 and usually 6 since I can often be 4441, (34)42, 4432. I could have other shapes too of course but running to clubs partner has to be very careful, and he almost always has a 4 card major to run to given that he presumably has short diamonds (for instance if he has 2 diamonds then he is 3325 or has 6 clubs or a 4 card major). If he has more than 2 diamonds we should probably pass but that is pretty unlikely, and even if he does he will often have a 4 card major still. If he's 4-4 in the majors he will have to completely guess what to do if he gets Xed in 1H, at least he usually has better spades than hearts though so he'll probably go right, and even if he doesn't they won't always be able to X 1H in which case we're ok, and even if worst case scenario happens and he sits it out in 1H X with 4-4 I feel way happier with that than playing 1D X on AQ32 in a likely 4-1 or 4-2 with turmps breaking badly and a trump lead coming! I think the fact that we cannot play the right major opposite 4-4 always is a very secondary concern to the impending disaster of playing in 1D X. Think about the generally tight requirements people have to pass 1D X on an auction like this, most have 5 very good or 6, if you are really aggro you might pass with only 5 semi-good here, but the 3-2 and a trump lead through is just superrr scary that they're going to pull trumps and claim. Often we have an out, and often we don't even get doubled as long as we run to SOMETHING. It's not unlikely at all to me that we have some fit and won't get smacked at the 1 level, or even that they won't smack us in a 7 card fit a lot of the time. But even if they do at least we're in the game and not about to go for an auto 500 or worse. DRG used to have a rule "never pass after 1m X p p" and I used to LOL at it but it's pretty much true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 3334? Or if they are 0-5, 3343?... I mean obv we can't take anything about running from the original hand since north has a 1♥ bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 So, can either of you tell us how the auction would go if your clones were sitting in all four seats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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