how should this auction go?

[Bbradley62]

http://tinyurl.com/yebdql5

 

I'm guessing that there are as many different answers as there are responders.

[jjbrr]

Every bid is up for debate, but it is crystal clear to me that north should double 1♥ and south should bid a lot of spades.

[helene_t]

North: Yes, North must certainly dbl 1♥.

 

East: 2♣ is maybe ok by a passed hand. What system are you playing? If 2♣ promises a 2nd bid as it does in SAYC, then 2♣ is likely to take you too high.

 

South: South could have bid 3♠ or even 4♠ if North had doubled. As it is he has to pass.

 

West: West must pass 2♣.

[jjbrr]

Ya west should always pass after he opens 1♥ and East bids natural ♣ if the auction isnt at 3 or 4♠

[Apollo81]

North should double 1♥. The extra high cards make up for the poor shape. It's not clear to me how many spades South should bid after this (I can see a case for 2, 3, or 4 regardless of whether or not East bids 2♣).

[jdonn]

can someone post the hand? work website blockage fml.

[jjbrr]

[hv=d=e&v=b&n=saq4hj54da95caj32&w=st93hkqt86dqtckt8&e=sjhadk8643cq97654&s=sk87652h9732dj72c]399|300|P P 1♥ P

2♣ P 2♥ AP[/hv]

[Pict]

This is Interest rather than A&E.

 

So excuse my question, why should North double rather than bid 1NT?

[Bbradley62]

This is Interest rather than A&E.

 

So excuse my question, why should North double rather than bid 1NT?

Because he doesn't have a stopper in Opener's suit.

[Bbradley62]

Does anyone open as East?

As South?

If it goes P-(P)-1♥-Dbl, should East Rdble to show strength?

[Pict]

This is Interest rather than A&E.

 

So excuse my question, why should North double rather than bid 1NT?

Because he doesn't have a stopper in Opener's suit.

Ah - of course I hadn't noticed.

 

So 1NT overcall promises at least one solid stopper. I play in a different country.

[the hog]

I agree with Pict. If you are going to bid on the North hand, (and whether Nth should or not is debatable anyway), then 1NT is far superior to a X.

[jdonn]

I believe north has a clear double. I would rate 1NT ahead of pass though.

[Codo]

At least the pair does not fit well. If there style is to pass 1 ♥ and 2 ♥ with the north hand, south has an easy reopening with his great shape...

 

I had never bid 1 NT with the north hand. I had doubled too, but even if my partner had not (give him 2344 f.e.), I had surely reopened with the south hand.

[hanp]

Maybe you Americans would bid 1NT with this but us Europeans would double.

[helene_t]

Does anyone open as East?

As South?

If it goes P-(P)-1♥-Dbl, should East Rdble to show strength?

I think it would be reasonable to open the East hand.

 

I wouldn't open the S hand. You are vulnerable in 2nd seat so a 2♠ opening should be based on no more than one flaw. The hand has three flaws: the bad spade suit, the void, the 4-card heart suit.

 

E should not redouble. He needs to show both his two suits so he can't wait to the 3rd round starting describing his hand. Especially since if he redoubles S is likely to preempt in spades.

[gnasher]

Even in England, which is the last bastion of the traditional takeout double, almost everyone would double with the North hand.

[pooltuna]

Maybe you Americans would bid 1NT with this but us Europeans would double.

So you are saying most Europeans would make an illegal call? Because I think most bridge players (North American as well) who play strong NT openings would open 1NT but X 1♥ since they don't have a ♥ stopper.

[Fluffy]

I Think I'd bid 4♠ as south after the double, the 4 hearts look very good, ♠Axxx its 8 tricks already.

[jjbrr]

I Think I'd bid 4♠ as south after the double, the 4 hearts look very good, ♠Axxx its 8 tricks already.

wat?

[Fluffy]

if partner has ♠Axxx, and at most 2 hearts for his double, we already have 6♠+ 2 heart ruffs in dummy for 8 tricks

[CSGibson]

if partner has ♠Axxx, and at most 2 hearts for his double, we already have 6♠+ 2 heart ruffs in dummy for 8 tricks

until RHO overruffs, that is, with his stiff/xx

[jjbrr]

xxxx in ♥ is the worst feature of this hand, and it's not even close.

[aguahombre]

The double by North is so obvious to most. I look at it differently.

 

1) North really can't pass.

2) Double not only has less than ideal shape, but also does not have 4 spades to compensate.

3) 1NT shows the size and shape, with one little flaw --which a transfer to hearts or a later cue can uncover if necessary.

 

And, as luck would have it, the NT overcall would keep us out of the spade game and rest us in a partial.

[jdonn]

Double not only has less than ideal shape, it also lacks four spades, and on top of that it is too long in hearts, additionally it doesn't even have two four card minors. For these 17 reasons I think double is wrong. B)