gwnn Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 1H-(2S)-p-p favourable imps. LHO alerts 2S on BBO as "strong!" both traditionally and to the table chat. :) he really really means it's strong. oh yes your hand xAKQJTxxxAxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 3NT. Goofy people who announce 2S proudly as STRONG will never lead their own suit unless they have five or more cashing tricks, because they will believe me. If they have five or more cashing tricks, they double. So, if 3NT is passed out, I'll get a diamond or heart lead. If 3NT is doubled, I'll bid 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 He might mean that the spades are really really strong.No matter what happened at this hand, or what the opponent turned out to have, I would make this my last hand against that opponent. I bid 3H and prepare to pack for the move... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 they really meant it was strong, I didn't want to ask if 2S was forcing or not but maybe I should have:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I think he's bluffing. 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 3♠, I'm STRONG too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 3♠, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 3♠ asking for stopper or are you just showing a good hand? 4♥ also shows STRONG imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I don't believe 4♥ shows quite this STRONG. It's just my gut feeling since who among us has found themselves in this situation before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I really like the in-your-face 3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliebol Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 double for take out and lets see where this leads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliebol Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Yes i know this is completely flippant but this seems to transfer the problem to my partner something the outrageous mr Rexford didnt succeed to do:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 4 ♥shows a hand this strong.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 If you say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 If you say so. Just to please you ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Whatever you do, LHO bids 4S as expected, passed around to you. Now?:unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I don't believe 4♥ shows quite this STRONG. It's just my gut feeling since who among us has found themselves in this situation before? I agree with your second sentence, so the rest of this post is pretty pointless in the real world. However, I'm a bit surprised you find this hand that STRONG in the context of this auction. You could easily have the ace of clubs to go with the hand you have, and that, in my mind, is more consistent with a hand that you want to suggest to partner that something bizarre is going on. I think it's obvious with a hand weaker than the one we have that we have to respect the 2♠ bidder and hope they just missed a game. I think we're just barely strong enough to say "Eat it. 4♥" while still having some protection against us balancing them into their cold game. To me, then, 3♠ is a hand in the ballpark of saying "2♠ really was the limit for them, we need to be in game." I don't think the actual hand suffices. However, opponents who do stupid stuff like bid 2♠ strong frequently do so on hands like ♠AKQJ and an outside ace and 4432 shape or something crazy. So maybe catering to that group of psychos is best, in which case I agree 3♠ probably describes this hand best. After 4♠ by lefty, I think I'd just pass. Did dummy put down like 4 trumps? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I could have x AKQJTxxx Ax Ax??? Uhhhh could I also have A AKQJTxxx AK AJ? Because apparently I just never open 2♣! But partner how could you not bid slam for me. You had the KQ of a minor and out, don't you know that's slam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 x AKQJTxx Ax Axx then? Whatever, I'm not going to argue about what is and isn't a 2♣ opener. If you think this is the strongest hand we could possibly have on this auction, then your point is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Well that's different (and may also be a 2 club opener anyway) but I take "the ace of clubs to go with the hand you have" as changing a low card in the x AKQJTxxx Ax xx hand to the ace. Sorry if I misinterpreted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Well that's different (and may also be a 2 club opener anyway) but I take "the ace of clubs to go with the hand you have" as changing a low card in the x AKQJTxxx Ax xx hand to the ace. Sorry if I misinterpreted. No, you're right. Mea culpa. And you're right that many would open the other hand 2♣ as well. So I guess the conclusion I'm reaching from this is that in this theoretical world where this auction would be worth thinking about, 3♠ and 4♥ can't exist to describe two different hands. With a hand much weaker, pass seems like the smallest minus most often, and a hand much stronger would either open 2♣ or be difficult to evaluate as strong vs. STRONG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 stop apologizing to one another. Jdonn what would you do over 4♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I'm sorry for all the apologizing. Now I bid 5♥ assuming partner didn't double first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 12 tricks in spades and 9 in hearts. RHO had 1 queen which covered all losers in LHO hand. LHO really was strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bab9 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 1H-(2S)-p-p favourable imps. LHO alerts 2S on BBO as "strong!" both traditionally and to the table chat. :ph34r: he really really means it's strong. oh yes your hand xAKQJTxxxAxxxAt the clubs I've played this hand would generally be opened 4♥. Why did you open 1♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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