bluejak Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Another query from a correspondent. What do you think? [hv=d=n&v=n&n=sa8hqjt96432d72ck&w=skjt9753hdk83ca65&e=sq2h7daq6cqj97432&s=s64hak85djt954ct8]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]..W...N....E...S.......3♥...P...4♥.4♠..5♥.P#1.P.5♠...P....P....P#1 Agreed hesitation Result 5♠ +1, NS -480. The TD adjusted this to 5♥ -3, NS -300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I think pass is an LA and that 5♠ is suggested by the hesitation. A short hesitation is probably normal tempo in this situation but if it was a BIT then I agree with the TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_R__E_G Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I think it's clear that W used the UI. For all W knows (without the UI) his partner could have a near zero count and S raised the 3♥ bid to 4♥ planning on making it and possibly more. If E did indeed have a zero count then W could be down 4 or 5 in 5♠. I'd definitely agree with the director's ruling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_R__E_G Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 On further review....why adjust to 5♥ down 3? Shouldn't it be just down 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I think you can make a very interesting case that pass is not an LA if you want to. But I'd be most interested in hearing whether and how west tries to make that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 On further review....why adjust to 5♥ down 3? Shouldn't it be just down 2?down 2 + an extra for spite, maybe. Promoting the heart seven :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy69 Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 5S seems to be based on UI. Pass is definitely a logical alternative. 8 hearts and a spade seem completely normal to me in 5H so I can't think what the TD was doing awarding -3 unless I am missing something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 i would say the pass suggests doubling (clearly just extra after a 4S call), not 5S - partner can have a borderline penaly X in which case 5S is likely converting a plus into a minus. there's no reason to assume partner's supposed defensive values will be sufficient to make 5S or indeed be of any value at all in spades. as such i'd say result stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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